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I used the Premier 700 WI-720 for my last test and it was the best so far. I went to Etsy and found several people that are selling double wicked 11oz tureens with soy wax. I suspect they burn great up to a point, and then the melt pool gets deep. Tyler candle uses a similar container ant it has the same issue, I bought one recently and tested it. Maybe I'm being too picky, but I'm going to try this one last thing before giving up.

I've only used 464 and 6006, but I have a lot of 6006 because I was traveling past Flaming a couple of months ago and took the opportunity to save on shipping. A CD 8 works well as a single wick, but it depends on unmelted wax on the sides. I used a Premier 700 WI-720 that worked perfectly until the wax level got to the fattest part of the container, then it got too hot and the MP got deep in a hurry. I've tried a good number of wicks and it is always the same. A different wax isn't going to change the characteristics of the container. If I had ant sense at all I would give up, but nobody ever accused me of having good sense. I'm going to try adding an extra 30% soy wax to the bottom half and see if that helps, if it doesn't I'll just stick to single wicking.

I ordered Jelly Donut this morning, and 10 other FOs. I'm using 6006 so I think it will work well for me.

Did they say what wax they are using? I think I have tried ECO 2s. Of course my house is warm this time of year. Maybe I should wait until October to do more testing.

Yes 6006, that's why I'm thinking blending in some 454 would help without looking like two different waxes.

I feel like Elvis, I just gotta have that Jelly Donut

It’s the air currents. The first time I tried to double wick that container I only filled it half way and when I lit the wicks the flames were sideways in a still room. I know it is the opposite of what you would expect, but I’ve tried a lot of wicks that burned great until the wax got about half way down, then they got hot and melted all the wax. With the WI-720s I had a nice melt pool going, but when it got half way down it went from 1/4inch to a full inch in an hour. The 22oz Tureens are taller and may not have this issue.

I don't need another FO supplier so I am not going to read this thread. I'll not let y'all tempt me, I'm just going to ignore it. Although the Cuban Tobacco sound really nice.

I thought you might ask that. My thinking is this, the 11oz tureens are like two different candles, especially if you double wick them. The top half burns like you would expect for its diameter, but the bottom half burns much hotter. I can’t have different wicks, but I could use different waxes. Also I’m sort of bottomed out on my wicks. In my last test the WI-720s did well until they hit the widest part of the container, then they melted all the wax. The WI-715’s flames were so small it was hard to keep them lit. So if I do a double pour with a wax that can take the heat in the bottom half I think I can make this work. As I plan on inking the container I don’t think it would show much, so hopefully the only issue is having to do two pours.

I’m not sure that is a good way to ask my question, but that is what I need to do. I thought about adding some 464 soy, but that’s all I can think of. It there are any better ways to do this I would love to hear them.

I was going to place another order with WSP just to try the Jelly Donut, let us know how it throws.

I think my wife might disagree with you.😀

Yes they do. This is one of three candles, the other one was burned in the garage. Unless we get a cold snap, which isn't going to happen in July, the house will be at the exact same temperature as the first one. I've been very careful to control all the variables on this test. The one place I have failed is wick length. I always trim my wicks, but there is going to be some variation in length that will skew the results a little. next time I'll measure the wicks to take that variable out of the equation. As soon as some cooler weather arrives I'll be making another candle and testing it. After that I should be able to test my FOs using the same container and wick and easily judge if they require wicking up or down based on melt pool, burn rate, and temperature they are tested at. I'm using data to make up for my lack of experience.

Last month I poured two 8oz tins with 6006 and the same wick. I tested one of them after two weeks and recorded weight and MP diameter each hour. It has been four weeks since that test. Is it time to test the second candle or should I wait longer?

I'm not sure what the problem is, but I can tell you how I would do it. I would skip the Vybar, heat my wax to 190, add my FO and stir for at least one minute. I would use a CD8, and I would wait at least a week before I burned them. You didn't mention stirring; my recent experience tell me if you don't stir enough to get the wax and FO properly blended you get poor HT; I don't necessarily follow the two minute rule, but I make sure the wax and FO are well blended. My process may not be the best one, but it is all based on the things I learned from the helpful experts on this board.

Good thing I have a limited supply of FOs and only two ounces of the Burmese Wood FO or I might be doing this 'till Christmas.

Here is what they say: 100% NATURAL FRAGRANCE OILS Crafter's Choice Natural Aromatic Oils are plant-based aromatics that are produced using pure essential oils and aromatic isolates derived solely from natural, raw botanical sources. All oils are certified to be free of synthetic ingredients. Most have a Flashpoint of around 200°

They list 14 of them. I need to make an all natural candle and I'm not the best at choosing FOs.

I have had that happen several times, no idea why, my guess is that the wax solidifies on the glass and wick at the top first and then shrinks as it cools. Have you tried pouring at a lower temp?

I go with two weeks, it seems to work better for me, used to only wait one week.

Thanks, I have a red current I haven't found a use for, and maybe I try a little Rosemary Pepper

Yes, my little picture there is the rocket park where I work. I'm not a rocket scientist, just one of the thousands of engineers it takes to make our projects work. People think you have to be smart to work at NASA, I think you have to be smarter to make candles.

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I love this board. Y'all have give me a lot of great ideas that I can start trying tonight. I think I'll start with the Tobacco Leaf & Amber I got in the same order. I didn't love it but it could be just what the Burmese Wood needs.

One of the Crafter’s Choice FOs I got from WSP was Burmese Wood, I’m not sure why but I was shocked when it smelled just like wood. It is a nice wood smell, but I’m not sure I want my house smelling like a lumberyard. I need a good masculine scent and this seems like something I could work with, but I’m just not sure what to blend it with. I tied my standard bergamot and patchouli and that worked well, but I’d like to try some other things.