TallTayl Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Hard to believe the holidays will be here so soon. Thinking ahead last week (for a change) I ordered up a case of Bayberry Wax for to make traditional candles. Just got my confirmation sample this morning. Made a quick pair of 8" tapers, and of course set one on fire as quickly as I could hit the button on my striker.Bayberry wax is pretty brittle, so these are 50:50 bayberry:natural beeswax. My current crop of beeswax is pretty deep yellow, but the final color is not too far off what it should be. These have nothing else added so I could do a fair wick test. As I make these for holiday sale I think a dab of green candle dye and a few drops of Bayberry FO will make them subtly perfect. Next up - Pillars and 12" tapers.How I love the holidays... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksranch Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Those are awesome! Real bayberry wax? Very cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debratant Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 These are very pretty! I love bayberry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bells4shells Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Those are gorgeous! Nice job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaithfulScenter Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Beautiful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chefmom Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Lovely! I have seen bayberry wax here and there, where do you get a whole case? I have a feeling it has a pretty pricetag to go with it. They are lovely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanetsCandles Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Are those dipped or molded? They are gorgeous! And seconding the question of where on earth you'd get a decent amount of the bayberry wax in the first place. I've got a couple people that have been begging me for bayberry pillars, but it's not something I've found a decent amount of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted September 23, 2012 Author Share Posted September 23, 2012 (edited) They are molded. I don't have time or equipment to make decent dipped tapers (yet). It's on the list... I get the bayberry wax from one of my distributors that supplies me with the drum quantities of surfactants and emulsifiers. After many exhaustive searches it's the only place I have found any this year. It's insanely expensive, but at least I have it now for the season. My customers expect me to make things they can't get elsewhere, so I aim to please! Edited January 3, 2015 by TallTayl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanetsCandles Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Holy crap that's expensive! LOL I'll be holding off on that one for a bit, unless I can get more people to ask for it. Did I mention you do awesome work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitn Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Beautiful work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flicker Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 http://www.spwax.com/sp-bayberry-wax.htmStrahl & Pitsch sells it. But $1000 a case is pretty high. A pound retail is $14 I'd bet a 50-60# case right now is running about $600-800. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted September 26, 2012 Author Share Posted September 26, 2012 (edited) http://www.spwax.com/sp-bayberry-wax.htmStrahl & Pitsch sells it. But $1000 a case is pretty high. A pound retail is $14 I'd bet a 50-60# case right now is running about $600-800.The smallest unit my supplier sells is 90lbs. With $100 in shipping alone half way across the country it adds up. I don't pay nearly per lb as much as what you calculated. Edited January 3, 2015 by TallTayl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flicker Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Most wax companies don't want to deal with you unless you can buy truckload quantities. I work for a supply house. I also sell for a living and have since 1999. Getting 2000 is small beans to most companies, they only want to deal with supply companies and manufacturers that can buy by the truckload. That's likely why you have not heard back from them. IGI used to sell pallets then it went to two pallets. Now it's truckloads. They don't want to deal with small companies anymore because it's just too labor intensive. Just being honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted September 26, 2012 Author Share Posted September 26, 2012 (edited) Most wax companies don't want to deal with you unless you can buy truckload quantities. I work for a supply house. I also sell for a living and have since 1999. Getting 2000 is small beans to most companies, they only want to deal with supply companies and manufacturers that can buy by the truckload. That's likely why you have not heard back from them. IGI used to sell pallets then it went to two pallets. Now it's truckloads. They don't want to deal with small companies anymore because it's just too labor intensive. Just being honest.With all due respect, you don't know me. I purchase drum quantities directly from manufacturers that won't deal with small businesses or even your typical retailers. So, yeah, I do understand how it works. Just being honest. Edited January 3, 2015 by TallTayl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flicker Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 With all due respect, I purchase more drum quantities and truckloads of material than you realize directly from manufacturers that won't deal with small businesses or even your typical retailers. I have a 10,000 square foot warehouse for this purpose. So, yeah, I do understand how it works. I'm not small beans. Just being honest.ETA - I DID hear back from them right away for the record. They couldn't touch the pricing I already get. Being in the SCC has its advantages.Did I say you were small? I just said that "most wax companies don't want to deal with you unless you can buy truckload quantities." Which is the truth. I simply answered someone else's question with regards to where to get bayberry. Don't chew me in half for helping someone else. And buying 2000# in the wax industry is small beans. I consider myself small and I buy drums of base oils/chemicals and pallets of wax too. Compared to the big boys, we are no ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donita Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Well....whatever.....love these posts. I like the idea of you using beeswax and bayberry. Beautiful natural color and I love the scent of bayberry. I might just make some for myself. I don't sell many these days but I like nice candles for ME. Donita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted September 27, 2012 Author Share Posted September 27, 2012 Turns out, that rep from S&L assigned to me just returned from vacation this morning. We had a great chat as he filled me in on some of the exotic butters and newer green products they have. Not only is he thrilled to have a new qualified customer in this area, he is able to compete with what the other manufacturer offers. They can even get a supply delivered more quickly than the other. Two bonus points for him. So looks like I'll be getting another couple of cases of Bayberry wax - some of which I will be willing to share. If enough people are interested I can co-op some for this board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanetsCandles Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 I think I'd be interested in some of it, TallTayl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chefmom Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 I still haven't quite figured out what a "co-op" means on this board, but if that means you will share your bayberry wax for $$ with others?? Well, I'd be on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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