KJohnson Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 all the container candles I have poured with IGI4627 have strange coloring on the tops...but not through out..can anyone tell me what that could be and how I can fix it? or maybe I dont need to fix it? I used 2oz Lilac (from Lone Star) and 6 drops of dye (also from Lone Star) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJohnson Posted October 4, 2005 Author Share Posted October 4, 2005 sorry forgot to mention that i used 2 pounds of wax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragontears Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 i think it needs to be a little bigger i cant see the tops very well to help ya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJohnson Posted October 4, 2005 Author Share Posted October 4, 2005 ok here is a little bit bigger pic,,what do ya think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragontears Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 to me looks like it wasnt mixed proporaly but not sure any one else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJohnson Posted October 4, 2005 Author Share Posted October 4, 2005 ok so help me out here...I bring my wax to 175....add the dye stir like a minute, add the scent, stir like a minutecheck the temp and the pour at 175should I be doing something else??Thanks for all your help:cheesy2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillgunter Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 Hmm thats strange. I dont use liquid dye so not sure. Is it flat on top or bubbly? Kind of looks bubbly on top on one but could just be picture. Only that one color doing that? I would think that if it wasnt mixed good it would go to bottom and not top. Good luck. You could melt one down and try repouring to see if it does it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michiganrocks Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 It looks like you might have used to much fo for your wax. I've added to much fo before when I have candle nose. I weigh out my fo and then add a little extra:wink2: . Sometimes it is to much though and my fo seeps to the top of the container. I don't know if that's it or if it helps....but hope you figure it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJohnson Posted October 5, 2005 Author Share Posted October 5, 2005 its not bubbly on the top its nice and smooth...It happens with almost all my container candles..I have been test burning and I think they burn great...and my kids think the color on top looks cool...lol they think I did that on purpose.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatinDucky Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 It is kinda hard to tell from the picture. I've not used that wax, so I don't know if it's something inherient to it specifically. As for making sure the FO is mixed thoroughly, I'd suggest adding the FO before the color. With the wax clear it's easier to see when the FO is thoroughly mixed. You'll see almost oily swirls as you stir. When it's mixed good, you wont be able to see it anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJohnson Posted October 5, 2005 Author Share Posted October 5, 2005 thank you so much.the candles in the picture..when I poured them I had wax left...and it truely is a one pour wax, but I thought I would do a second pour and see what happend....and the same thing...but a prettier design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizbizzyb Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Fellow Nebraskan...I use 4627 as well. I noticed swirls, etc like that when I would do a re-pour (only out of habit). What I started doing is reheating my wax to the same temp as when I poured my first pour. Also, stiring for about 1 minute before pouring. It help out quite a bit!!!!Try and let me know if that works....Otherwise, do you put any additives in the wax? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJohnson Posted October 5, 2005 Author Share Posted October 5, 2005 Fellow Nebraskan...I use 4627 as well. I noticed swirls, etc like that when I would do a re-pour (only out of habit). What I started doing is reheating my wax to the same temp as when I poured my first pour. Also, stiring for about 1 minute before pouring. It help out quite a bit!!!!Try and let me know if that works....Otherwise, do you put any additives in the wax?Thanks for the tip...I will try that..do you use 1oz of FO per pound of wax? I love the scent throw on this..Im new to all this but wow...smells great. what part of NE ya from?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJohnson Posted October 5, 2005 Author Share Posted October 5, 2005 ohhh I forgot no..additives.....but today I will get some UV from Peaks....so then that will be the only other thing I add besides the FO and dye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelaVA Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 I use 4627 and when I pour into non-heated containers, the candles get that strange pattern on them (and I don't do 2nd pours). I don't think it has anything to do with mixing the FO. Also, I heat my wax to about 185, add color and FO and then pour between 180-185. I don't get that pattern if I heat my jars, but I am too lazy to do that anymore. HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaraScribbles Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 I found that happening to my SIL's wedding candles, (scented Love Spell-colored Blue). We fixed it easily by zapping the tops with the heat gun..worked like a charm.HTH,Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJohnson Posted October 5, 2005 Author Share Posted October 5, 2005 I use 4627 and when I pour into non-heated containers, the candles get that strange pattern on them (and I don't do 2nd pours). I don't think it has anything to do with mixing the FO. Also, I heat my wax to about 185, add color and FO and then pour between 180-185. I don't get that pattern if I heat my jars, but I am too lazy to do that anymore. HTHMay I ask what jars you use and wick?? I am using an 8oz wide mouth mason jar...and Im testing HTP93 and HTP105. but so far with a 3 hour burn the HTP93 there is still about 1/4 inch wax not burnt to the edge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelaVA Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 I use the 8 oz square mason jar. The HTP 93 works well and cleans up the sides. The HTP 83 leaves quite a bit of hangup until the last few burns. The LX 16 also leaves hangup and soots with most of my FOs. So far, the HTP 83 or 93 (depending on FO) is my choice, since it leaves the least amount of soot and burns the slowest in this wax. I have also found that this wax may take longer to get a FMP. I don't always get a FMP in the requisite 3 hours, but maybe closer to 4. Since customers always burn candles longer anyway, this doesn't really bother me. Wicking up also doesn't help - just creates more soot. Last week, I tested 4 jars, poured from the same batch, with LX, HTP, zinc and low smoke zinc wicks. The zincs burned the fastest and left the most soot (yes, I trimmed the wicks before each burn). The LX left some soot and was in the middle as far as burn rate. The HTP burned the slowest and had the least amount of soot - very tolerable for a parrafin wax. I haven't tested any other jars and am probably going to stop using this wax because I have had so much trouble wicking it. When I used j50, almost every FO could be wicked with a 51z in my square mason and, when the wicks are trimmed, there is no soot and no wax left on the sides of the jar. The 4627 just isn't performing as well as I want, although the throw is awesome. Hope this helps a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJohnson Posted October 5, 2005 Author Share Posted October 5, 2005 thank so much for your input. So would you say then to not go any higher then the 93??What wax will you use then J50?this is my first wax....Im nervous to try something else...is the J50 a one pour?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelaVA Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 My 8 oz square masons are not a wide-mouth jar though, so you may need a larger wick.I am picking up some J50 and J223 this weekend. I know J50 works for me, but since so many people have raved about J223, I think I might as well see what all the fuss is about. I will also try mixing those two just to see how it goes. I am only selling wickless candles right now, but I need to settle on a wax soon and get my regular candles ready (ie, tested) in time for Christmas. That's why I'm leaning towards J50. J50 is a one-pour wax as well. It makes a pretty candle, but I always get wetspots. I honestly don't care anymore though because no one else notices them but me. I think it would be a great wax for you to try, if you give up on the 4627. It is also way less messy then the 4627. It comes in soft slabs that you cut with a knife. No scooping required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJohnson Posted October 5, 2005 Author Share Posted October 5, 2005 thanks so much for the info. I think when this is gone I will try the J50.you say its soft and you can cut it with a knife?those hard slabs of wax kill my hands..my husband told me to buy a hot knife...Lone Start has them for $40but I dont want to spend the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michi Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 I get this look on top of almost ALL of my container candles, but I think it looks ! If you can see what I'm talking about do you think this is what you may have also? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glowlite Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 I get this sometimes too. Only with certain scents though. I can't tell if its because the FO is not mixed in good enough or if its uneven cooling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJohnson Posted October 5, 2005 Author Share Posted October 5, 2005 yes I think thats the same thing I have going on.I dont have a heat gun (YET) but I just used a really hot hair dryer..but it didnt change it.One I burn the candle that discolorization goes away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cindym Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Are you heating the jars? Try that. Also hit them with a heat gun and see if it goes away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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