Guest highflier Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 I am adding a line of candles to my store and was wanting to know if this looks like a good list of scents to start off with for the fall and winter: 1. Harvest Spice2. Pumpkin Pie 3. Mulberry 4. Vanilla 5. Hot Apple Pie 6. Macintosh Apple 7. Sugar Cookie 8. Cinnamon Stix 9. Gingerbread 10. Hot Coco11. Grandma's Kitchen12. Apple Struddel13. Patchouli14. Fruit Slices 15. Blueberry Muffin16. Baby Powder 17. Pears & Berries 18. French Vanilla 19. Strawberry 20. Cucumber Melon 21. Cinnamon Bun 22. Oatmeal Raisin Cookie 23. Spruce Christmas Tree24. Apple Jack Peel Fresh tangy apple cider with a touch of spice.25. Sweet Pea 26. Pine Needle 27. Lavender 28. Christmas Spice 29. Banana Nut Bread 30. Christmas Splendor31. Candy Corn 32. Sage & Citrus 33. Peppermint 34. Lovespell A Victoria Secret type35. Lilac36. Clean Cotton This fragrance oil is like the Yankee type. Spring is in the air! It is a soft clean scent37. Home for the Holidays Blend of spruce, lightly sweetened bakery notes, spice, & candied fruits.38. Autumn Afternoon 39. Sweet Cinnamon Pumpkin 40. Warm Vanilla Sugar 41. Snickerdoodle 42. Spiced Cranberry Fresh tart cranberry with a hint of spice43. Red Hot Cinnamon 44. Gardenia 45. Vanilla Hazelnut 46. Creme Brulee 47. Pink Sugar A playfully soft women's fragrance with the sweetness of sugar, cotton candy, musk and light florals. 48.49.50.Need help with three more fragrances. I will be making containers and votives. Do ya'll think this to many fragrances to start out with?I also would like some help with type of containers to use. I will be using the elevation jars 16oz. and 10oz. net weight and 8 oz. jelly jar. I need some help with some other jars that are great sellers that are not so hard to wick. Any opinions here will be greatly appreciated.Thanks,Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 I am adding a line of candles to my store and was wanting to know if this looks like a good list of scents to start off with for the fall and winter:Dude, what are you up to and how long have you been up to it? You may not be quite ready to take the world by storm if you're relatively new to this. Do you realize you're going to have to test each FO in each container to figure out how it performs with the wax, the amount to use, and how to wick it? Not to mention the votives. That list is mildly insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YooperCandles Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 Wow, that is a lot of scents! I started with twenty and that was too many to start with. Are you making these candles, or purchasing them? If you are purchasing them then dont worry about their being too many other than having too many for customers to choose from. If you are actually making the candles, I would start with less.......maybe 3 or 4 each of bakery, floral, fruit, etc. HTHPam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaybee23 Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 Dude, what are you up to and how long have you been up to it? You may not be quite ready to take the world by storm if you're relatively new to this. Do you realize you're going to have to test each FO in each container to figure out how it performs with the wax, the amount to use, and how to wick it? Not to mention the votives. That list is mildly insane.I ditto that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest highflier Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 Yeah you can call me insane. I have been working for the past 3 weeks 12-14 hours a day. I ordered a Coogar Mark VII pouring machine that will be here Friday. Don't know if you have seen this equipment but the people I have talked to love it. Here is there web site http://www.coogarproducts.com/. It pricey at $18,500. Dont have to mix fo and dye into wax. It goes thru a mixing chamber that spins it 10,000 before it goes into the container. It takes 1 minute to go from one scent/dye to another. I have been pouring all my container w/o wicks. Makes for quick changes when the wick is not right. I have a pool and spa retail store that is fixin to be so slow in about another 2 months and figured putting candles in there will keep the sales going. I have myself and my two employees to get 50 fragrances poured and burned in the next 6 weeks. Good thing I can pour all these test candles in one day. Everyone will be completly test before they are sold. I'm a perfectionist, got to be right.I appreciate your help in the past. I'm finally getting the hang of wicking these jars. Finally got my melt pool to 3/8" deep in 4 hours. If its drafty it will be about 1/2". I burned 2 today for 6 straight hours and it was about 9/16" deep in drafty conditions. So I'm getting pretty close on the wicks now. I'm figuring worse case seniros that the customer will be using the candles in. Drafty conditions and I didn't even trim the wicks for the previous burn. They were 3/8" long instead of 1/4". That really make a big difference.Anyway thanks again for your help. Haven't gotten a whole lot of responses to my post. I got a lot of work ahead in the next 6 weeks. Sounds crazy huh. Going to put 2,500 container candles and about 6,000 votives in the store and call it Wholesale Candle Factory Outlet. If you make some pretty pillar candles I may be interested in buying some fancy one to put in the store as well. I'll work on them at a later time.Sincerly thanks again,Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest highflier Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 Yooper I thought to many choices would be a bad thing. I may do 30 instead. But which 17 do you cut out? Choice can be good and can be bad. Really could use some help here. Thanks,Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsvlbrat Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 Sounds like you have alot of work ahead of you. I wish you luck. You know there are always folks here willing to lend advise/help. You have a large undertaking ahead of you and if you've tested and tested somemore and feel comfortable with your product, best of luck.We love to see pictures, hint...hint;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trish Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 Have you tested all those for throw? Some of them might not throw at all. IMO, there are a lot of scents that are similar. I personally don't think it's worth carrying 3 scents that smell almost the same, different name, you know? JMOedited to add: I've also noticed that too many sometimes can be overwhelming to a customer. By the time they sniff half of them, they can't smell anymore or distinguish what's good or not. A lot of the times, they can't decide and don't buy at all. Keep it simple! I think 30 sounds much better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sudsnwicks Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 Well if you're calling it Wholesale Candle Factory Outlet, you will need to carry quite a lot of scents (though still not necessarily as many as 50) as the name implies. While having too many choices will be confusing to the customer, it may not be so bad if you group them according to their scent types. In this way someone who doesn't like florals can just skip that section altogether. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest highflier Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 I promise I will snap some pictures of the store when we get it loaded with all the candles. I'm hoping to have most of it done by the end of September. Wax will be here tomorrow and pouring machine will be here Friday. Then lots of work!!! It can't be more work then racing though. Check out my racing website. http://www.nitrousshop.com/index.html. If you want work there it is! LOL Thanks again,Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trish Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 If I were to cut 17 scents, I would leave these, IMO:Harvest SpicePumpkin Pie Mulberry Vanilla Hot Apple Pie Macintosh Apple Sugar Cookie Gingerbread Grandma's KitchenFruit Slices Blueberry MuffinPears & Berries Strawberry Cucumber Melon Cinnamon Bun Spruce Christmas TreeApple Jack Peel Sweet Pea Christmas Spice Banana Nut Bread Christmas SplendorSage & Citrus Lovespell A Victoria Secret typeLilacClean Cotton Home for the Holidays Autumn Afternoon Warm Vanilla Sugar Spiced Cranberry Red Hot Cinnamon Gardenia Vanilla Hazelnut Creme Brulee Pink Sugar Since I'm not familiar with some of the scents, how close do these compare? I bet they're pretty similar (cinnamon-y and spicy) and you could cut out 3-4 of them.Christmas splendorAutumn AfternoonChristmas SpiceGrandma's KitchenHarvest SpiceApple Jack and Peel JMO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest highflier Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 Trish I will only use the scents that throw well. I'm trying not to get to many scents that are the same. I'm getting my f/o from atlantis and they told me some just don't throw well. I told him then by all means don't send them to me. I will send them my list tomorrow and he my cut out several of these because of not being good scent throwing oil. So far every candle I have tested has had a unbelievable scent throw. I have tested hot coco, honeydew, apple struddle, butter cream crunch, mulberry, and vermont maple syrup. So which ones would you get rid of in my list?Thanks,Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trish Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 I'm getting my f/o from atlantis and they told me some just don't throw well. I told him then by all means don't send them to me. Just remember, that everyone's results are different! Even the same wax/ wick combo, someone will have a great throw with one FO and another person won't.I posted above which scents I personally would remove, and it's just my opinion!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest highflier Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 Thanks for your help. I'm revising my list now. Will post later.Thanks again,Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharyl55 Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 You don't show where you are located. Favortie scents can be a regional thing. Some customer bases go for clean and herbal scents and others go for the food scents. You might consider a smaller container for those that want to try a new scent. Or maybe you are counting on the votives to provide a low cost sample of a scent. Good Luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 OK I getcha now. That's some crazy sh*t I would do, and I like the perfectionist part.Sorry that it crossed my mind for a moment that you might be clueless, and good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scents for me Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 I am adding a line of candles to my store and was wanting to know if this looks like a good list of scents to start off with for the fall and winter:1. Harvest Spice2. Pumpkin Pie 3. Mulberry 4. Vanilla 5. Hot Apple Pie 6. Macintosh Apple 7. Sugar Cookie 8. Cinnamon Stix 9. Gingerbread 10. Hot Coco11. Grandma's Kitchen12. Apple Struddel13. Patchouli14. Fruit Slices 15. Blueberry Muffin16. Baby Powder 17. Pears & Berries 18. French Vanilla 19. Strawberry 20. Cucumber Melon 21. Cinnamon Bun 22. Oatmeal Raisin Cookie 23. Spruce Christmas Tree24. Apple Jack Peel Fresh tangy apple cider with a touch of spice.25. Sweet Pea 26. Pine Needle 27. Lavender 28. Christmas Spice 29. Banana Nut Bread 30. Christmas Splendor31. Candy Corn 32. Sage & Citrus 33. Peppermint 34. Lovespell A Victoria Secret type35. Lilac36. Clean Cotton This fragrance oil is like the Yankee type. Spring is in the air! It is a soft clean scent37. Home for the Holidays Blend of spruce, lightly sweetened bakery notes, spice, & candied fruits.38. Autumn Afternoon 39. Sweet Cinnamon Pumpkin 40. Warm Vanilla Sugar 41. Snickerdoodle 42. Spiced Cranberry Fresh tart cranberry with a hint of spice43. Red Hot Cinnamon 44. Gardenia 45. Vanilla Hazelnut 46. Creme Brulee 47. Pink Sugar A playfully soft women's fragrance with the sweetness of sugar, cotton candy, musk and light florals. 48.49.50.Need help with three more fragrances. I will be making containers and votives. Do ya'll think this to many fragrances to start out with?I also would like some help with type of containers to use. I will be using the elevation jars 16oz. and 10oz. net weight and 8 oz. jelly jar. I need some help with some other jars that are great sellers that are not so hard to wick. Any opinions here will be greatly appreciated.Thanks,MikeA cinnamon buns would be nice to add. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest highflier Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 Sharly I did forget to mention that I'm in Shreveport, La. That is in the Northwest corner of the state. We all love food so I know the food scents will be good. I have taken heed to the advice and dropped my list down to 37. Don't really want to get much less then this. Like someone said it is going to be a wholesale candle factory outlet and customers will probably expect alot of choices. Here is what I have so far:1. Harvest Spice2. Pumpkin Pie 3. Mulberry 4. Macintosh Apple 5. Sugar Cookie 6. Gingerbread7. Hot Coco8. Grandma's Kitchen9. Apple Struddel10. Fruit Slices 11. Blueberry Muffin12. Baby Powder 13. Pears & Berries 14. French Vanilla 15. Strawberry 16. Cucumber Melon 17. Cinnamon Bun 18. Oatmeal Raisin Cookie 19. Spruce Christmas Tree20. Butter Cream Crunch21. Sweet Pea 22. Lavender . 23. Banana Nut Bread 24. Christmas Splendor25. Candy Corn 26. Sage & Citrus 27. Lovespell A Victoria Secret type28. Lilac29. Clean Cotton This fragrance oil is like the Yankee type. Spring is in the air! It is a soft clean scent30. Home for the Holidays Blend of spruce, lightly sweetened bakery notes, spice, & candied fruits.31. Autumn Afternoon 32. Sweet Cinnamon Pumpkin 33. Spiced Cranberry Fresh tart cranberry with a hint of spice34. Red Hot Cinnamon 35. Gardenia 36. Creme Brulee 37. Pink Sugar A playfully soft women's fragrance with the sweetness of sugar, cotton candy, musk and light florals. I still need some help with containers. My main jar is going to be the elevated jar going to pour 15 of each scent in a 22 oz. jar and 15 of each scent in the 15 oz. jar. Do ya'll feel that is still a nice jar to use as a main jar. I also will pour some 8 oz. Jelly Jars, 8 oz. tumblers. But I still need some more help for a few other jars that are popular. How do the 11 oz and 22 oz barrel jars sell? Also if someone has some nice pillar candles that they can sell at a wholesale type price I will be interested in buying about 40-50 candles. I really loved this candle http://www.rhapsodycandles.com/welcome.html. If you have some pictures send them to me.Thanks again for everyones help,Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fern Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 Sounds like you've got your work cut out for you...you're going to be one busy guy! One suggestion I might add is that you incorporate more herbal/floral and fresh scents. The majority of your scents are bakery or fruit. You've got a whole lot of people out there that like their houses...and bathrooms...to smell fresh and clean...not like food. I'm one of those people. Although I like a bakery or fruit scent now and then...the sweetness of them gets to me after awhile, so I don't burn them for long periods of time. Now give me an herbal/floral or fresh scent, and I will burn them all day and night in several rooms of my house. Just my opinion, do with it what you may. Good luck in your venture! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tx_bckrsn Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 wow.... Candles and high performance parts!! My two favorite passions!! I agree with Fern, you need a few fresh scents, maybe water? Storm is good for me with my 'male' crowd. Right now, I have several loving the Cigar, Leather line. Just a thought.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest highflier Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 Ok what would be some good scents that are not food and bakery.I guess I could drop some and add JasmaineOceanFresh Cut Roses I tested this and it smelt just like the real ones!How about a few other ones for me.Thanks,Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scented Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 Take a look at some aromatherapy. Like there's lavender and chamomile together and tons of other blends. There are scents out there called herbal, purely herbal or a combination of herbs together like basil, sage and mint etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandleFreak Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 I definitely agree that you need some fresh, clean crisp scents....i personally can't stand foody scents...they make me get a terrible case of the munchies and headaches if there is a "cinnamony" smell to itsome popular scents for me...jade, green tea, white tea & ginger, blackberry sage, storm watch, clean cottondon't forget florals too.....lavender, lilac, and jasmine are quite popular for me as wellhth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam W Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 I have to ditto Trish. Some of the scents on the list are very similiar, i.e,, Cinnamon Stix,Cinna Bun, Red Hot Cinn: Spruce Xmas Tree, Christmas Splendor, Pine needle: Hot apple pie, Apple Jack, Mac Apple, Apple Strud. That's 11 scents that could be cut down to 3 for now then rotate the scents based on the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest highflier Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 Thank you guys and gals so much for all your help with my scents. I see what you are saying about duplicate fragrances. Here is my new revised list of scents. Tell me if you thinks if this is a little more diversified:1. Harvest Spice2. Pumpkin Pie 3. Mulberry 4. Fresh Brewed Coffee5. Sugar Cookie 6. Gingerbread7. Hot Coco8. Grandma's Kitchen9. Apple Struddel10. Fruit Slices 11. Blueberry Muffin12. Baby Powder 13. Pears & Berries 14. French Vanilla 15. Strawberry-n-Cream Bird of Paradise 16. Cucumber Melon 17. Cinnamon Bun 18. Oatmeal Raisin Cookie 19. Banana Nut Bread 20. Butter Cream Crunch21. Sweet Pea A light refreshing floral on a background of musk22. Lavender 23. Jade24. Lilac25. Jasmine26. Sage & Citrus An herbaceous bouquet with floral top notes and a sweet woody background.27. Lovespell Sweet citrus bouquet enhanced by hints of peach and berries on an undertone of musk.28. Gardenia29. Clean Cotton This fragrance oil is like the Yankee type. Spring is in the air! It is a soft clean scent30. Home for the Holidays Blend of spruce, lightly sweetened bakery notes, spice, & candied fruits.31. Jamaica Me Crazy A sweet tropical and fruity blend reminding you of the islands 32. Blackberry sage33. Spiced Cranberry Fresh tart cranberry with a hint of spice34. Red Hot Cinnamon 35. Christmas Splendor36. Creme Brulee 37. Pink Sugar A playfully soft women's fragrance with the sweetness of sugar, cotton candy, musk and light florals. 38. Candy Corn 39. Fresh Cut Roses40. Endless Love A green fruity floral bouquet with apple, rose & jasmine top notes with a sweet woodsy musky background. Really do appreciate your opinios. Also still could really use some serious help with some jars. Here is what I have so far: http://www.wholesalesuppliesplus.com/ProductDetail.aspx?Tab=2&CatalogID=3&CatalogTitle=0&ProductID=3330using the 16oz and 10oz for my main jar line up. Also using the 8oz Jelly Jar.I like this but not to sure http://www.alabastercandlesupply.com/proddetail.php?prod=BAR-11&cat=8 Remember I live in the Louisiana. Thanks again for all your help,Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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