Soja Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Here is the latest, I re-melted and poured hotter. I put the mold into a styrafoam cooler before I poured and covered it for a whole day! The feather effect is similar to the other one. Feather on the bottom and the very top. I've allready poured another test. I wrapped the same mold in foam insulation, heat gunned it and poured hotter, about 220. If wrapping doesn't cure it, I am done with ideas. Wrapping is the last idea you people gave me. Is it the tin mold? Cause I poured one in an Aluminum mold, round, and just left it. I did wrap it and it turned out great. Ideas please...:undecided Soja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtngrl Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 Last weekend I made a palm candle in a polycarbonate mold. The patterning turned out really great. However, not sure if it's 'cuz the mold is plastic or because the sides of the hexagon are so narrow (the diameter, from edge to edge, of the mold is 2" wide). I'll try to post a pix tonight for you.edited to say .... oops, my high resolution is to large to reduce for web. Lol. I'll have to reshoot at a lower res. Might be tomorrow or next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grannyscandles Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 Lovely really! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elle110 Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 whats wrong with it, I love it, send it my way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mei-Mei Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 Hmmm, I poured some today and they came out really lovely with feathering all around. Are you sure that your mold isn't a little cold or sitting somewhere on the cool side? I'm sorry I can't be of more help, but that's the only thing I can think of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheilaW Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 First of all that candle is a beauty! Nothing wrong with it at all, just not what you want. I do think the aluminum molds are much better for obtaining the full pattern for palm. I can't remember if you have mentioned where you get your palm from but if you have the crystalizing and the feathering then try mixing them. Here's a link to some that I posted on the old board. By mixing, it makes the entire candle have a pattern and different ratios create different effects.http://www.candletech.com/cgi-local/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=gallery;action=display;num=11089534 55;start=0 I know it's frustrating when you have a vision in your head and your candle doesn't match it but the ones you have posted are beautiful and anyone would think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtngrl Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 Sheila, thanks for posting the link and revealing your mix. Those are beautiful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandacandlemaker Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 I think it looks good. How do you get the silver color? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donita Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 I like the way it looks and the silver color is beautiful but I know what you mean......when I was doing palm candles.....they came out different all of the time...never could figure it out....I don't make them anymore. And Shelia....those candles are something else....hmmmmm....might just have to order some palm wax again.....Donita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 Soja, have you tried pouring cooler - like 150-160? I get very consistant crystals at that temp in a 3" aluminum pillar mold (and my other molds too) and I don't wrap or preheat the mold or anything. My kitchen air temp is usually arount 75-80 when I am pouring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soja Posted March 21, 2006 Author Share Posted March 21, 2006 Update:This pic is the latest.I get the silver by using diluted black dye. The feathering makes it look silver.I re-poured the Dusty Pink hotter and wrapped the mold in insulation. Did not matter. It seems that the mold/wax combo just generates this kind of pattern. This is further confirmed by the small round dusty pink. I wrapped/poured just like the big pillar and the pattern came out completely different. The layered is just a color combo my Wife wanted to see. It's very light magenta, which is translucent and powdery green thats opaque. Thats in 'regular' wax.SheilaW... Very beautiful examples. Please let me know more about the mixing combo's. Stella1952... No, I have not tried cooler. That will be next.LOVE these learning discussions! Soja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyN Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 I'm wondering if the difference is that some of the molds are Aluminum and some are metal or are the paterns different because of the shape of the molds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheilaW Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 I think they look awesome! You know, I haven't thought of this before but I wonder if the shape of the mold affects the pattern?? The round one has the pattern all the way through it. Things that make you go hmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soja Posted March 22, 2006 Author Share Posted March 22, 2006 ALLRIGHT.... Latest update to the update to the update...This is a pic of one I just poured. 165 degrees! No pre heating the mold! In a 68.6 degree basement!The only difference is the top didn't do much feathering. Mei-Mei, SheilaW, I'm now sure it's the shape/material of the mold.Stella1952, 165 degrees. I poured the others at 210/220What Do Ya Think Folks?????? Soja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mei-Mei Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 You're right, it must be the mold. You're making those for your daughter's wedding, right? Is she just absolutely set on having that mold shape? Maybe you could do a bunch of 2 inch pillars or something like that.p.s. I really like that color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donita Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I was just cruzin the Candlewic page and saw their picture of an example of a palm wax candle.....it doesn't have an all over design either. I found that happened to me off and on. ???????????? Donita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 This is a difficult issue to resolve because palm wax seems to differ greatly from supplier to supplier; fragrance oils differ; the amount of additives (palm stearic, UV stabilizer, etc.); the melting temps, pour temps, air temps, etc. differ; and the mold composition differs. All these factors seem to have a strong impact on how the crystals form, the pattern(s) they make; the uniformity of the patterns, etc. The variety of effects possible are what interest me, but the complexity of influencing factors makes it hard to pin down EXACTLY how it's gonna behave each time! I love the surprises it shows me and honestly, have NEVER been ashamed of any of the candles we've poured with palm... but sometimes, I don't want a surprise, I want to be able to replicate the effect in a project. Sigh. Back to Da Laboratory... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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