iansmommaya Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 1 hour ago, TallTayl said: If anyone wants a hair raising story to help you not sleep at night, look up the story of cosmetic colorant reseller "Glittersniffer". OMG. YES. I spent days REALLY DAYS. Reading about Glittersniffer. I read everything I could get my eyes on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcandleattic Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 9 minutes ago, iansmommaya said: OMG. YES. I spent days REALLY DAYS. Reading about Glittersniffer. I read everything I could get my eyes on. Never heard of her. Is she in a soap group on FB or on a forum? Here? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 19 minutes ago, Jcandleattic said: Never heard of her. Is she in a soap group on FB or on a forum? Here? She was an Etsy seller, then artfire, then another marketplace and finally her own site. If you have a chunk of time, google her. The case was unbelievable. a complete cluster. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonstar Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 15 hours ago, Sponiebr said: I was going to RANT... I was going to RAVE like the MAD man that I am about the INJUSTICE and roguish near thievery of the whole specialty craft industry... I was going to DEMAND ANSWERS AND ACCOUNTABILITY... And then... (SOBS) THEN... TT comes in here with wisdom and common sense. and, (WAILING) it's lights out, ice cream cone in the sand, game over, bubbles popped, parade cancelled, THUNDER STOLEN, for me... Oh it was going to be SUCH a PERFORMANCE!!!! Move along folks... nothing more to see here. I'll just... I dunno... my new purpose is gone...sniff... <shuffles off into the cold, dark, and lonely shadows *exit stage left* > ) Seriously though, TT you're absolutely right. I mean even water is poisonous if over consumed. Still, where the certification comes from is kind of interesting, and still seems fairly ill defined. Also are clays like the Rhassoul and French sea clays lab altered? I thought that at least the Moroccan and Brazilian colored clays were naturally occurring. Yeah. They want it their way but their way seems rather obscure. FDA: "THOU SHALT DO THE THING!!!" Uh... what "thing"? "THOU SHALT DO IT!!!" Whaa? What am I supposed to do? "Thou SHALT NOT do THAT THING!!!" (oh boy...) what are you talking about!? Hello? FDA? "WE SHALT REIGN HELL UPON YOU IF YOU do THAT thing!!!" Where can I find out more about the "things"... "THOU SHALT NOT VIOLATE THE CFR!!!" What parts? "Well, what do you mean WHAT parts? ALL OF IT you silly ninny..." You can't use X brand oxide because it's not certified but you don't have to disclose what's IN the soap if you label it soap... Wow. That would be just about enough to drive someone nuts... (Queue IFRA...) "Finish him!" "Fatality!" "IFRA WINS" "MORTAL KOMBAT!!!!!!!!" I WANT THE TRUT... This is the first time I've heard of TKB Trading... Where have these folks BEEN in my life!? WOW! They have officially beat the pants off of anyone else selling pigments! Thank you TT! (and thank you all!) -Sponiebr I love them them - great selection ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponiebr Posted November 4, 2016 Author Share Posted November 4, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jcandleattic said: Never heard of her. Is she in a soap group on FB or on a forum? Here? No idea... I' just googled her: http://www.lipsticksandlightsabers.com/2011/02/please-go-directly-to-jail-part-1.html Oh and it DOES look like a harrowing Charlie Foxtrot! I can't WAIT to be entertained tonight 4 hours ago, TallTayl said: You will learn that with so much information (misleading and helpful) a quick Google away an increasing number of people will not try, let alone buy, soap or cosmetics with no label. Like your family, Sponiebr) who want to risk a trip to the ER? As a manufacturer, following GMP saves time, money and lowers risk considerably! Yep! Just because it is not regulated, that DOES NOT mean you are or will be indemnified or held harmless regarding torts or any other liability. Right now, this is what my labels look like, and they're basically this way because they're identifying gifts for other friends and family member (though my church did sell some of my soap at a fund raising bazaar). I want to develop one of those ingredients lists that lists everything that I use in my soap making but doesn't necessarily list the specifics for any particular bar. e.g.: Ingredients: Commercially prepared food grade beef tallow and palm oil shortening blend (list out what wally world's ingredients are here), Olive oil, Coconut oil, Water, Sodium Hydroxide, fragrance. May contain: Aloe, natural mineral colorants (list out all of them common and INCI), goat's milk reconstituted from dried powder, etc... Anywho, I gotta jet off to work. C'ya! -Sponiebr Edited November 4, 2016 by Sponiebr forgot to attach the label. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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