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    CP high superfat Soaps including pine tar soap, Deodorant, Beard Oil, Beard Wax,Trad-Ir Instruments.

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  1. Did I ever tell you I adore you TT? No? Well I adore you TT. ❤️ Sponiebr The Executor of Bad Ideas, Sundry Services, and Losing Women...
  2. Well, it's moot now. The principle object for my endeavors has left. I got had... AGAIN.
  3. NO! I won't compromise on those at all! Completely counterproductive. Then add to that the weird little $300 MOLD to make the damned things and, all of the sudden I'm like: "Hey Bae!!! Maybe it's Maybelline!?" I was just thinking with the crap tons of mica's and oxides I have on hand that at least blush should be doable. MAYBE nail polish would be a wiser choice?
  4. That's EXACTLY where I started GMTA. I just have ABSOLUTELY NO CONCEPT about what these products should or should NOT be like because I have NEVER used them. Chapstick is as close to a lipstick as I've ever used. I feel like the first guy the American Government came to and said... "SO! We're going to the MOON, and YOU'RE the guy that's gonna make it happen!" But I have something old rocket man DIDN'T have... YOUTUBE! I'm SURE I can figure this out... Well, I might be able to get SOMETHING usable out of my endeavors. FIRST things FIRST! What goes into that stuff you girls pat onto yer beautiful lil faces? Mica, Oxides, I would THINK stearic acid... but what ELSE? If I can figure blush out lipsticks should be fairly straight forward... Blissful ignorance feels AN AWFUL LOT like HOPE! Cheers, Sponiebr The Executor of Whatever I gotta be... I do what it takes, 'n junk...
  5. Along this same line can someone point me in the right direction for Lipstick base, like date night lipstick stuff? I'mma need some direction on how to make eyeshadow and blush pressed into them little metal pans. (OH MY GAWD!!!! WHAT HAS BECOME OF ME!!!!!???) Help me! Help ME!!! Thank you for your support... Sponiebr The Executor of Making Girlfriends HAPPY and some other junk that I can't remember anymore... Bad soap and.... I dunno
  6. Yep the 2 shortenings are indeed beef tallow and palm oil blends. And just to clarify the simple 3 oil soap you mentioned not more than adding 5% castor oil, and then 76F Coconut Oil, High Oleic Sunflower oil, or Olive oil?
  7. Glad I actually was able to help! Volcanoing is a direct result of water content. The fat profile of your soap can cause it to heat up when using it at RT, but in CPOP that's also a water content issue. So, you can go with a lower water content, say 30% and that should help reduce if not completely eliminate the volcanoing for CPOP. (for the record I don't do CPOP very often, but I have done it many times) About the Crisco... (Shudder) Crisco is hydrogenated Soybean Oil which is basically GUARANTEED DOS... I swear canola and soybean oil are the 2 most consistently DOS'n oils I have EVER used. I actually LIKE a little canola oil in my formulation from time to time but I WILL NOT use it anymore because they ALWAYS get DOS. There's nothing wrong with palm oil, to be perfectly honest the coconut oil is FAR MORE likely to volcano on you over the palm. Coconut oil gets HOT very QUICKLY , and, more importantly, it gets HARD very quickly... (split loaves, and EXPLOSIVE volcanoing) I think I've posted my formulation that uses the Walmart Great Value Shortening... That formulation was made so that ANYONE in the US could buy ALL of their fats from Walmart or a Grocery Store. Bake Rite is the brand of shortening that is the same as the GV animal and veg shortening. For the castor oil part, up until 3 weeks ago when Bulk had a sale, I was using Humco Castor oil in the little 6 ounce bottles. Obviously, it's cheaper to buy it by the gallon (e.g.: 7 lbs jug), but the Humco castor oil works PERFECTLY well, and it's not horrifically expensive from Walmart. Another gel inducing method that you can do it wrap it up in an electric blanket. (If it volcanoes though... IJS...) If your oven can go down to 150 I'd go with that temperature if I could. 3 other ingredients can heat soap up by simply being present. 1. Milk or dairy (That's a SURE BET EVERY TIME) 2. Honey (It is also another one that always seems to heat the hell out of soap) 3. TD. YEP titanium dioxide will heat the soap up REALLY REALLY HOT and REALLY REALLY fast. (It's why you get glycerin rivers with TD) If you can eliminate any or all of those you can definitely make a cooler acting soap. High CO content soap WILL HEAT UP. Lard also heats up pretty good as I recall... HTH! Slainte, Sponiebr The Executor of Bad Ideas and Sundry Services.
  8. SOAP: FO load%: 2.4 Veggie / Animal type fats: Beef Tallow, Palm Oil, Coconut Oil, Olive Oil, Castor Oil. 7% Super Fat water discount/ lye solution%: 30% water Acceleration: OH YES Discoloration: Light Tan Morphing: None noted. Fading: Not so far. Other Notes: I adore this scent. It has warm pine, with Christmas spices, orange peel, maybe holly berry, and a tiny amount of smokiness to it. The IFRA certificate posted by Candle Science on this scent shows that it IS soap safe at 2.4%. Candle Science lists the FO as NON soap safe on the label. I called them up and asked Candle Science about the discrepancy. They told me that because it was under 3% usage rate in soap the FO was labeled non soap safe. The Candle Science Representative clarified that as long as you didn't exceed the safe usage rate indicated on the IFRA certificate it was fine for soap. I made that batch in COLD PROCESS soap. It really accelerates the trace VERY quickly. You're NOT going to get any good swirling done in this soap. If you were making a single color soap I think CP would be fine with Christmas Hearth but it DOES curdle the soap. It doesn't quite qualify as ricing but it curdles the soap enough so that it makes a cottage cheese like consistency throughout the bar and especially ON TOP. That curdling is NOT acceptable for my soaps. The curdling effect is strictly aesthetic and doesn't affect the usability of the soap at all. The low 2.4% usage rate leaves most of the sweet, warm, honey like top notes of this complex scent out and you get a more Pine/Evergreen & Holly with a hint of smoke smelling soap. Ok so NOW for some classic Sponie BAD IDEAS... I made another batch at 3.16% usage rate, ( I know it's "not safe"), and at THAT rate ALL of the sweet warm honey like top notes shine through. That rate didn't bother ME personally, but officially "It AIN'T safe". I will be trying this FO in HTFHP because I don't have to use as much FO with HP soap as I do with CP and I think that the 2.4% will still bring out the the sweet warm notes of the fragrance. That is all. Please resume your normally scheduled activities. Sponiebr The Executor of Bad Ideas and Sundry Services
  9. IKR!!!!? SQUEEEEEEE!!!! <---- Genuine SQUEEEEEEE!!!!!
  10. THERE SHE IS!!!!! (Oh THIS is gonna start get'n FUN NOW! BUHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!!!! ) o.O Sponiebr The Executor of Bad Ideas and Sundry Services
  11. It's REALLY not that bad... Not exactly something for beginners though...
  12. Thank you both. Here's my current HTFHP formulation: That method listed above is the BEST way to do it, the trick is in the resting of the soap between each step of the process with the SL and FO at the end. Actually, now that I think of it, (its' been awhile) I use the SF (68g) to mix up my micas in... Have fun! (and DO NOT GET HURT) Sponiebr The Executor of Bad Ideas and Sundry Services.
  13. OH MY! MY MY MY... (Sorry 'bout not being around..) I'm here... So HP goes MUCH MUCH better if it's HOT and you use A LOT OF WATER. THe trick to getting it t stay fluid is keeping your utensils/ingredients/ molds HOT while you are putting it into the mold. THE OTHER trick is KEEPING the WATER IN THE SOAP while it cooks. The NEXT big secret is WHEN and WHAT to add to your soap during the process... I USED to be 100% SOLD on the high temp fluid hot process that I learned from Valerie Mosher but TT has CONVERTED me back to CP. The MAJOR problem I had with HTFHP was the months long cure time and how badly the soap would shrink during that period. Right now I have 2 soaps that I use HTFHP with and one is a SPECIALTY soap (pine tar) and the other is a seasonal soap so I can MAKE it up MONTHS in advance so that it will be cured when Christmas finally rolls around. (I'm not joking AT ALL when I tell you I've got to get THAT Christmas soap made THIS MONTH if it's going to be ready by Christmas.) Ok Basically it starts out like this: 38% or 40% water soap formula Super fatted to about 1% or even 0% but I'd suggest newbies going ahead and doing 1% in the soap calc... Now figure out what 5% (not including the 1% you already HAVE in the formula) but what 5% of the TOTAL SOAP Weight would be. Weigh out THAT amount in what you want your super fat to be. (OO is WONDERFUL feeling SF in soap) You see in HP YOU choose what the SF will be. NEXT! I use a crock pot for my HP. Heat your oils to around 178 F... Next make sure that your water and SF oils and colorants in oils are ALL kept VERY WARM ( I put mine in a warming oven) I ALSO put my pyrex measuring cups in the warming oven (usually with the individual colorants in the bottoms with a dip of the oil from the pot to wet them down and get them in solution. (I use micas) You need to save out about 1/3 of your total water content and set it aside MIX in 1 tbsp per pound of oil (PPO) of PLAIN WHITE SUGAR into that water and dissolve it completely. Cover it with plastic wrap and maybe mix in your clay and 1 tbsp PPO into the water as well. NEXT go ahead and dissolve your lye into the 2/3 remaining water and get that going. (I like adding silk to my lye water) After you've got that mess all dissolved and your oils are NO MORE than 180F you're gonna go ahead and soap it. Just hit it with the SB until it's light trace and then cover with plastic wrap and let it sit cooking for about 5-10 minutes. IMPORTANT!!!! DO NOT LEAVE THIS UNATTENDED IT WILL VOLCANO ON YOU. MAKE SURE YOU ARE GLOVED UP AND HAVE YOUR SAFETY GEAR ON BECAUSE YOU WILL BE BATTLING A VOLCANO IN A MINUTE. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! THE INSTANT it starts swelling beat the HELL OUT OF IT with a spoon and make it GO BACK DOWN. (I like to turn my pot off at this point) YOU KEEP BEATING IT until it STAYS IN THE POT. Once it goes back down cover it and cook for another 5-8 minutes or until it volcanoes again (keep the stuff off the sides of the pot or it'll leave ugly lumps in your soap). At some point here it should go to vaseline stage and when you hit that you turn the pot off completely and let it start cooling down to around 175 to 165 or so... KEEP IT COVERED to keep the water in the soap. as soon as you have about 175F (it needs to be WELL BELOW 200F so anything below 190 is fine for this step) Add in your milk/sugar/clay water (it's hot remember?<---- That's important that it's NOT COLD) Now beat that in with a spoon/dough whisk until it's smooth looking and then recover it. When the soap is around 140-150F you are going to add in your superfat and FO and 1 tsp PPO of sodium lactate. <---- THIS IS CRITICAL TO GETTING FLUID HP SOAP... You'll find it's VERY fluid after a few minutes of stirring it. SO fluid you can use a SB on it again. DO THAT. Next portion out your batter into your HOT pyrex or whatever mixing containers (I know you're NOT supposed to use glass in making CP soap but this is HP soap and it's FINE because there is NO active lye in the soap at this point) Mix in your colors and then I like to layer in the pot so that it's basically an in the pot swirl and you're gonna pour it at this point into a hot/warm mold. As soon as the soap cools to the touch (all the way through) it's DONE and you can start using it immediately. It will harden up a tad over a 2 day drying period and that will improve the lather a bit as well...Clean up can be done with your bare hands (except for your lye container) because all that you have in the pot now is FULLY saponified SOAP. Basically the key is the sugar/SL/SF and FO at the end of the cook and NEVER pouring at less than say 130F... (I've gone as low as 110F but trust me YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THAT) As long as you follow THAT method and those temperature and sugar and SL portions and you keep it HOT and Keep the water IN THE SOAP you should get a REALLY nice looking batch of soap. You WILL HAVE to pour QUICKLY so individual cavity molds are REALLY not going to give you as nice a looking soap as a log mold would. You've literally only got 3-8 minutes to pour and swirl and tamp... Tops are ALWAYS FUGLY on HP... It's just the way it is... It's a little dangerous because you HAVE to battle multiple volcanoes, there's NO getting around it with the fluid hp... Your total COOK time is around 15 min. Cool down will take maybe a half hour from pot to mold. Uh go a little lighter on how much FO you use, you don't have to use as much in HP soap because there's no lye to fade the scent. That's how you do it though. You can get as beautiful and intricately swirled soap with HTFHP as you can from the slowest CP out there. GOOD LUCK! Sponiebr THE Executor of Bad Ideas and Sundry Services.
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