Hey Mary Ann, I use M&P from Florida Soap Supplies. I add a little tiny bit of stearic for hardness (just do that out of habit, her M&P might not even need it) and a squirt or two of liquid soap which produces loads of lather. I just ordered on Sunday night from Florida Soap Supplies and got my stuff on Wednesday or Thursday. Incredible as this is (to me at least) Ginny the owner is out of town in PA with a sick mom. She has her family (son & granddaughter) taking care of shipping out from Florida. But, she kept in touch with me as far as my order. She is truly an incredible supplier. She even has a place in PA to ship orders from. I am a member of her yahoo group so I get an additional discount on my supplies also. Chris