Let me just say that I have always made candles a very light color. I never made them very dark, because I just liked the lighter shades, so all mine were very light. So, I just figured to make them lighter, you added more dye. Well, I have been adding more, and it isn't getting much better. ROFL. I may try the black, thanks! I have been using the Peak's Pillar blend, *can't remember the number at the moment, I am stuck at work at the moment* and the mottling wax.