Holly

Hi Tammy, I made the switch. Although, I still do make some paraffin candles. I needed to make the switch and I found that it works better for me. If I chose different jars (non-soot collectors) then the paraffin would have worked for me. However, I like the fancy jars and soy works the best in them. I have found that I love the cold throw and the hot throw with the soy. I have only tested 4 different soy waxes and only one of them extensively (Calsoy CB-3). I tested the EcoSoya 120 (two candles) that I had on hand for awhile as an additive and I also tested the Ecosoya 135 (one candle) and I am currently testing the C-3 Cargill a bit. So, I can't compare many soy for the scent throw, but so far out of the ones I listed, the CB-3 Calsoy and the C-3 Cargill are the best in the cold and hot throw department -- not sure which one is better out of these two yet -- may be the CB-3. Soy burns longer and burns cleaner (for me). It is not as easy to work with because you sometimes have to pour cooler (depends on the soy) to help achieve the smoothest tops possible -- don't like to wait to pour. You have to put up with frosting -- mostly with the pure soys or almost pure soys. You have to sometimes put up with unsmooth tops and dips and pitts. But there are things you can add or do to help with this. I have to tell you though, even though soy has its quirks I LOVE the clean burn and the CLEAN jars after the candle has burned all the way down. So, the quirks are worth it to me. I do like the look of soy too even though it can frost and I love the way the scents smell in it. It is true that there will be more scents that do not throw as well in soy than in paraffin, but most throw really well if you shop at the right places. When it throws well it really throws well. I have only had a few that threw well in my paraffin but not in my soy. I still like paraffin but found that for my needs soy works the best. I use my paraffin in large mouthed jars without any narrowing at the bottom. It works really well for me in these jars. If I were you, I would give soy a try. If you find you don't like it, at least you will not always wonder what it is like. And who knows, maybe you will find that you are a soy girl! Good luck and have fun! ~Holly

Hi Scented, Thanks. If I do not find them at my Walmart or Michaels, I will check into Hobby Lobby.

Hi TMeeks and ScentsandMore, Thanks so much. I will check both of those stores out! That would be great to be able to pick them up in my own town and not pay the shipping. I hope they are made from the same manufacturer -- good quality. The ones in the picture look like they are made of quality glass -- very clear. Thanks again!

I was wondering if anyone here knows whichs stores carry the pumpkin jars that do not have faces and the particular apple jar below. I found them at Hertiage Candle Supply and did a little bit of searching but have not found them anywhere else yet. I think I remember seeing them somewhere else, but cannot remember where. Thanks! Here is the Heritage link and a picture of them: http://www.heritagecandle.com/images/Novelty_Jars.jpg

You are welcome. A lot of times a little bit of hang up will catch up. Since it is a small amount of wax liquid, I don't usually wait 24 hours. I wait until it appears and feels firm. Some here may wait 24 hours. Since you are trying to see if the "one" wick does the job, you might want to wait until tomorrow morning. I never noticed it making a difference in my testing of two wicks by not waiting until the next day. It sounds like you are making progress.

Hi Melly, That sounds pretty good. As long as the flame is not a torch and there is no smoke than that is good for a 4 inch wide container. In another hour maybe that half inch on the side will be gone. I am not sure if your jar is 4 inches wide though. The melt pool depth sounds good too. Is your flame a nice height without smoke? If so, that is great. Yes, if you are going to single wick, a cotton wick may be better since they are suppose to burn hotter. Keep us posted.

Hi, How deep does your meltpool get in let's say 2 hours? I have used similiar jars too. In any of the larger mouthed/bodied jars I have always ended up having to double wick. I have used the 4786 before too and found that usually the 44-32's zincs (double) would work with most fragrance oils and sometimes the 44-28's zincs. Depending on the width of the jar -- some mouths can take 51-32's zincs and it also depends on the fragrance oils. Some real heavy oils will take two 51-32's in the real wide mouthed jars. I found that I used smaller zinc wicks more often with the 4786 than I did with some other paraffin blends. Double wicking will always give you a much faster melt pool than the single wicking. I actually like this unless it is way to deep to quick. I like a happy medium. A lot of the paraffin/blends burned too fast for double wicking in my jars. The 4786 was not too bad -- burn rate. I currently use a paraffin wax (other than my soy) that has a slow burn rate and is great for double wicking. Also, if your meltpool is getting too deep too quick (too hot) with double wicking, I would stick with the zincs since they are cooler burning than the Cotton and I believe also cooder burning than the HTP. Wicking can be a pain in the neck! Hang in there, you will get it. HTH ~Holly

Hi Terrie, Thanks. I think I remember looking at that a long time ago, but did not remember about it. I will take a look. Thanks again. ~Holly

Scrubzz, I think I can too. I bet they do have the stars!

Well, duh, I just now read what they wrote. It does say "metal". :lipsrseal

The ones with the black hats -- the hats do look like metal edges -- not as rounded.

Thanks Sheryl, They may be glass hats, because they are showing the snowmen how they look unpainted and then painted. But, I could be wrong. The one on the far right without paint on the body but has the black hat could be the metal hat one. I guess I could call and find out. Thanks again. ~Holly

I think those are really cute too! I have one of the ones with the glass hat, but I like the metal hat better. Let us know if you find them. I may search a bit too. ~Holly

I just did a search on the web and from what I can tell the cotton is the hottest of the cored wicks. So, how do they compare to the non-cored wicks? Which is hotter? Thanks you guys. ~Holly

I did a search on the old board, but I am still not sure. What is the hottest burning wick out of these listed below: Cotton Paper HTP ECO RRD CD From what I have read in my search (not a lot came up when I searched the phrase "hottest burning wick") cotton seems to be the hottest. Is this right? Thanks. ~Holly

Hi Kaybee, It is a heavy metal container (not real thick though, but thicker than a metal tin). Looks kinda like an urn. I remembered the old board having a wick suggestion thread that was started by someone who also also uses Calsoy CB-3. I checked it and she uses one RRD 50 or 55 in a 3 inch diameter glass container. However, I would not want the flame to be bigger than the 40 I tried. The 47 to me after it burned for a bit was too big -- figured that if I continued to burn it long enough to hopefully create the full meltpool, it would have been way too big. She double wicks in an 8 oz. tin container (3 1/8 diameter) with two RRD 29 and she also double wicks in a 3.5-4 inch diameter container with two RRD 29. The difference is mine tapers at the bottom, so I wanted to stay away from double wicking. If it was not as drastic of a taper I would. I am using Eucalyptus & Spearmint. It is not a real heavy oil because in my main jars that I double wick in, it takes smaller wicks than some of my other fragrances. These containers are just containers that my friend and I bought for ourselves to have, and I do not plan on offering them to sell. They are just something that we really liked the look of. They were also very expensive -- especially for the size. ~Holly

EDITED TO CHANGE THE WIDTH OF JAR TO 3 3/8. I have this really pretty non-glass jar (but can be used as a candle) and it has a 3 3/8 inch top and a narrow bottom. I have not done a lot of single wicking but know that single wicking would be best in this jar since it is rather narrow at the bottom (narrower than any jar that I have ever tested in). I want to use my soy wax in this jar to achieve the cleanest burn. I have tested both the RRD's (wicks I use in my main jars) and an ECO. I tested two sizes in the RRD's and one size in the ECO. I don't want the flame any bigger so the ECO 6 seemed like the right size in terms of flame and out of the two RRD's the 40 seemed right - the 47's flame got too big. However, my meltpool goes out about 1 1/2-1 3/4 inches and then begins to go downward and cannot seem to go outward any further. I have tested this same jar for me with my JS-123 paraffin wax and the melt pool is much better -- although it still had about a 1/2 inch wax left on the sides after a fairly long burn. It probably would have caught up later in the burn, but I stuck two wicks in there (not adhered) just for me -- can't do this for a friend or customer. The Calsoy CB-3 soy which I am using is a very slow burn soy and it takes a lot of energy to burn off the sides. From the way it looks there may not be a wick to give me a FULL melt pool. Out of all the wicks made for soy, which one is the hottest burning? If I go up in size with either of the RRD's or ECO's the flame will get way too big. The only other wicks I have right now for soy are Cotton, Paper and the HTP. I will try them, but I doubt they will make that much of a difference. For those of you who single wick soy in a container with at least a 3 inch mouth, are you successful at achieving a complete melt pool? I may end up having to use another wax in this jar -- my paraffin. My friend and I both have this jar, and I am trying to create it into a nice candle for her. I was hoping I would have this done by tomorrow for her wedding, but I won't. Any suggestions? Thanks. ~Holly

Does anyone know if a store that is closer to Washington State carries it? I did a search but did not have much luck. It sure is cute! Thanks. ~Holly

Thanks Fire and Ice. Yes, I did hear that they replaced it with the C-3. I was curious to know what I/we are missing out on. lol Darn, why the heck did they discontinue it. I mean, I know we all dread the excessive frosting, bumpy tops, but if given a choice I would rather have the wax to have the ability of holding more FO and having a better throw than having less frosting and taking colors better. Maybe most don't feel this way but it sure seems like it -- almost everyone seems to search for that KNOCK YOUR SOCKS OFF throw or something better than they already have. lol What is the most FO that you have put in a 100% (not combined with the C-2) C-3 soy candle that it still held well? And, what would it do if it did not hold a higher amount well -- bleed excessively in a warm/hot environment before burned, bleed even if it was sitting (unlit) in a nice room temperature, or FO settling on the bottom? I have only burned 4 candles made with C-3 and so far the cold and hot scent throw has been REALLY good. However, I used between 8-9 percent. I have not noticed any bleeding as of yet. Just By Nature said that 6% is recommended although 7-10 percent may be used with certain FO. The four candles I made are: Mulled Cider, Comfy Cabin, Blueberry Verbena, and Country Grove. I was curious as to how it compared with CB-3 Calsoy. So far, I think the scent throw is as good (really good). It has a lot less frosting when the candle is new. After a burn you can get some frosting but not more and actually less than the CB-3 -- have the same scents made in the CB-3 Calsoy. I noticed that you can pour the C-3 hotter and get smoother tops than if you poured the CB-3 hotter. However, if you pour the CB-3 cooler you get real pretty tops. CB-3 appears to burn slower in my jars than the C-3. Actually, for my cornered jars, the C-3 burns off the sides better -- less residue and a really level melt pool. I like both really well. I would have to test the C-3 more to really know. I should add that this is in my household environment and both of these soys could act different in a different environment -- re frost, etc. If you were only able to use less than 7 - 8 percent, then I can see why the throw would not seem as good. With 8-9 it seems to throw really strong -- at least with the oils I used. And, my nose is really hard to please. Especially since I test so much and may have a constant case of candlenose. lol Thanks for the info. ~Holly

Hi Fire and Ice, What do you find are the differences between the C-2 and C-3? Thanks. ~Holly

Hey Brooke, Yep, I had the same problem. That is why I can't remember what amount of soy is in the CB-30 Calwax. I don't believe it was listed and I asked the guy where I got it and he was not 100% sure but gave me a rough idea and now I can't even remember. It does not look like the Comfort Blend would have any soy in it (the way it appears to me). But, I may be wrong. I am not sure about the Harmony or Vintage. They can still call it a blend even if there is no soy in it at all. It just has other things that are already blended in it and does not require those additives -- like vybar, petroluem, etc. I believe both J-300 and J-6006 has some soy in them but I don't know what percentage. Someone else here may know more about what is in the Harmony and Vintage blend. ~Holly

Hi Brooke, Yes, I sure do know what you mean about wanting an awesome scent throw. I am very hard to please in this department too. This is one reason why I kept going from wax to wax. I always compared my candles' scent throw with my favorite candle company's scent throw. I not only had the pour scent throw problem (not up to my nose's standards ), I had the problem of finding a paraffin wax that would burn clean in my jars. I use both a straight paraffin and soy. I am finding that I prefer the soy for several reasons -- scent throw, clean burn, etc. I have tried J223, J223/J-50, JS-123 (currently use), IGI 6006, J-300, IGI 4786, IGI Comfort Blend, IGI Harmony Blend, Calwax CB-30 and some other 50/50's and some of my own blends of waxes together, and I have found that both the C-3 Cargill Soy and the Calsoy CB-3 has a way better scent throw than most of the waxes I listed and measures up against the good throwing ones. However, there are some scents that just won't throw as well in soy but very few so far. I avoided soy for the longest time because I kept reading that soy did not throw the scent as well as paraffin, etc., etc. But then I would read at times that some thought it had a better throw. Once I got fed up with paraffin issues, I took a chance on soy and found that I prefer it. I still use my paraffin for some things but may someday only make soy candles. I also have to add that many feel that they get a really awesome throw with 6% or under with fragrance oils. I find for myself whether with paraffin or soy that anything under 8 and definitely under 7 does not throw well enough for me no matter what wax I use. I use only quality oils but still usually use between 8 and 9 percent -- sometimes less but not often. I guess it is depends on ones nose -- what one thinks is an awesome throw may not be an awesome throw to another. lol Keep up your search. You will find the right wax for you. I learned not to settle for something just because others would encourgage me to do so. If it does not seem right, move on and look to your options. You will find it! ~Holly

Hi, From my experience, I too, am finding that straight soy (without any paraffin) throws better for me than a soy/par blend. Of course, I have not tried all the soy/par blends out there but the ones I did try I find I like the way the straight soy throws the scent the best. However, I did try the CB-30 (Calwax) which is a soy/par blend but I believe it had a lot more paraffin than soy (someone correct me if I am wrong on this). It had a great scent throw and was a very pretty wax, but burned too fast for my jars and was not real easy to wick for me since I double wick -- too small or too big. I have found that I love soy and if it is a good scent throwing soy and when it throws a FO well it really throws it WELL. I like both the C-3 Cargill and the CB-3 Calsoy. Both throw scents really well. I have tested the CB-3 much more than the Cargill. I have only burned three candles made with the Cargill and they all had an awesome scent throw at 8-9% (may have been able to go lower too). The Cargill frosts less than the Calsoy for me and you can pour it hotter without getting real bumpy tops. There are only a few FO's that have not thrown well in the soy that I have tried, but some of those oils may not even have thrown that well in my straight paraffin either. There were just a few so far that threw well in my paraffin but not in my soy. Some scents are just lighter scents and are not supposed to have a KNOCK YOUR SOCKS OFF scent throw. These make great scents for bathrooms or small rooms. I hope this helps you a bit. I would keep testing different waxes until you find what you are looking for. Good luck! ~Holly

Hi Terrie, I get dancing flames too. I don't usually get them on the first burn when the wax is close to the top but from about the second burn on they dance and I don't really like it either. However, like others have said, if there is no soot, has a great melt pool and a great scent and the jar is pretty than I just live with the dancing flames. I do notice that in my tureen jars, the flames are much steadier (prettier to me). These jars are wider and shallow and that seems to really help keep the flame steady. The jars that you have that are not curved, are they narrow and deep? I also notice that even jars that are not curved if they are narrower and deeper the flames will dance more. Double wicking also creates flames to dance more than single wicking -- creates a current for each other. Most of my jars are curvy and get smaller at the bottom so they will dance. I like the look of the fancy jars, so I just put up with it. If you really like the jars and you have a great burn otherwise, I would keep the jars. ~Holly

I edited my above post. "Comfort Blend" should have said Harmony Blend 4630.