Fire and Ice

I still say it's a very cheap shot to a supplier. More times than not, the emails can be found in the spam file. We agree to disagree.

I understand this is the way most customers feel!:tiptoe:

Well I know lots of soapers who love them for their great oils. I DO plan on trying them. There is an excellent possiblity that your email ended up in their spam file, therefore they don't know about your problem. Before you slam a supplier on a forum, you'd be wise to exhaust ALL avenues of a resolution prior to coming in a crying foul! Is there the possiblity that the F/O is actually old than you remember? I just don't see why you come in and whine when you also say you haven't actually had their side of the story. What you've done here in this post is a very cheap shot.

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My bars are 6oz after cure and I sell them for $ 6.00 each or three for $16.00. I've al;ways sold large bars because I want my customers to get what they are paying for.

I use lard in many of my soaps and I like it just fine but I also add PKO, OO, RBO and Coconut. I won't use it in a facial bar nor my DSM soap, My customers don't really care vut I live in the country and many people understand that 10% lard isn't going to kill them! I have yet to meet people asking for veggie oil soaps. That being said, I hope to be ordering a 50lb cube of no stir palm at the end of the week along with the rest of my Soapers Choice order.

How much of a water discount did you take? There are many scents that will heat up and cause a soap to crack. Green clover & Aloe is like that. Therefor you never take a water discount with them.

24 is not that many scents. What you could do is only carry certain scent at certain times of the year. What are you going to do at Christmas with fall and holidat scents like Pumpkin and such. Only you can make the choice but you also might start doing some limited editions.

Chances are excellent that they are made in China. Promote buying hand made in the USA.

I have a question: Do you list LYE on your igediants list? Lye is USED to create soap but there's no lye in the end product od the soap. I've seen it with and without lye listed in the ingrediants. I personally use the following on my labels: Sapified oils of Olive, Rice Bran, PKO, Soy. Also contains Distilled water, Dead Sea Mud or oats, silk and fragrance oils If you are going to list Sodium Hydroxcide, where would you list it?

If you do not want to gel milk soaps, put them in the freezer overnight. I've done both gel and non gel on milk soaps and I just gel it now.

I so totally agree with you, Barncat:tiptoe::wave:

Just me, I know lots of people double wick their candles but I will never buy a double wicked candle myself unless it's a very large candle. I always feel like someone was lazy in their efforts to find the right wick. :lipsrseal

It looks great! How did you like it? I love using DSM in my soap!

Very nice soap, E! I'm lovin' it!:wave::whoohoo: