SparkysCandles Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I do both, there's things I love about soy and there's things I love about paraffin. Just wanted to see who does what out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaithfulScenter Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I do both, although sometimes I wonder why I bother! Still on the hunt for the perfect mix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HookieBear Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 (edited) I was told to start out with one type of wax so I have been doing soy. Not sure that I am liking it though, I read some older posts and saw that some people do a blend of soy and paraffin. WHY???? What's the point? Edited October 15, 2012 by HookieBear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksranch Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Pariffin. Only pariffin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaithfulScenter Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Hookie- There are benefits to both wax, so it's trying to get the best of both worlds!! Soy burns cleaner, paraffin has a stronger throw, but soy has a richness with bakery scents that paraffin doesn't, but paraffin doesn't look all diseased after you burn it!! And so on and so on!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChandlerWicks Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Paraffin-4627Soy-415Hookiebear, it's hard, but stick with the wax you're learning with until you know it completely. Even if you don't like it at the end of all testing. You'll be sure you hate it & won't 2nd guess yourself by trying it again later like me. A ton of times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjdaines Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Love my parasoy mix, it is best of both worlds; great HT and CT, slower burn than paraffin. and none of the visual mess of soy (frosting, craters...). Only disadvantage is the pastel colors but I am doing mostly no dye these days anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorseScentS Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 According to the National Candle Association, soy produces the same amount of soot as paraffin and does not burn cleaner, but soy soot can be more white or gray sometimes, so it can be harder to see. Soy wax is not greener, and the HT is not as strong, so I don't see any point going through the hassle of working with soy. And when I say soy is not greener, I'm talking about all the petroleum and chemicals it takes to cultivate, plant, harvest, transport, and process the soy beans into wax; as well as the impact of agriculture on the environment. Also, the crushed beans have to be soaked in deadly hexane to extract the oil, and then that oil/hexane mix goes into a vat of alcohol, which evaporates taking the hexane with it, (don't worry, only traces of deadly hexane remain in the wax. lol) then the soy oil has to be triple hydrogenated to make it into wax. To me the whole soy wax thing is just a marketing scam. But, if you really like soy candles, then you should make and/or buy soy candles. There's a market for soy candles, and that's fine with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaithfulScenter Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 According to the National Candle Association, soy produces the same amount of soot as paraffin and does not burn cleaner, but soy soot can be more white or gray sometimes, so it can be harder to see. Soy wax is not greener, and the HT is not as strong, so I don't see any point going through the hassle of working with soy.I did not know that! I was just going by what I have read on most supplier sites, but you know, you can't believe everything you read on the internet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChandlerWicks Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Definitely gives bakery FOs a richer scent to me too!Hookie- There are benefits to both wax, so it's trying to get the best of both worlds!! Soy burns cleaner, paraffin has a stronger throw, but soy has a richness with bakery scents that paraffin doesn't, but paraffin doesn't look all diseased after you burn it!! And so on and so on!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorseScentS Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I did not know that! I was just going by what I have read on most supplier sites, but you know, you can't believe everything you read on the internet!That's what bothers me, too much lying about soy on websites. If they would just promote their product without the lies, I wouldn't be offended by soy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorseScentS Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Definitely gives bakery FOs a richer scent to me too!I wasn't happy with 6006 parasoy, but I'm going to try Victory Blend parasoy to see how it throws the bakery scents, since those are my favorites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChandlerWicks Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I think you should try all soy, no paraffin. I poured the following waxes 4 days ago with MWs Lavender Sage, only 4627 & 415 have a good CT. I'll wait a week & then burn the soy blends. But if the CT is not there, it won't matter about HT to me. Could be the FO isn't compatible with the blends.4627415600630203022I wasn't happy with 6006 parasoy, but I'm going to try Victory Blend parasoy to see how it throws the bakery scents, since those are my favorites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I think you should try all soy, no paraffin. I poured the following waxes 4 days ago with MWs Lavender Sage, only 4627 & 415 have a good CT. I'll wait a week & then burn the soy blends. But if the CT is not there, it won't matter about HT to me. Could be the FO isn't compatible with the blends.4627415600630203022The Lav Sage I just did last night in 415 has make-your-eyes-water CT, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChandlerWicks Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Hush! What % did you use?The Lav Sage I just did last night in 415 has make-your-eyes-water CT, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeanie353 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Can add CBL 130/125 to the list of waxes LS works in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeanie353 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 The Lav Sage I just did last night in 415 has make-your-eyes-water CT, lol.Oh oh. May have to go back to the drawing board. Have CT and awesome HT but it is not making my eyes water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChandlerWicks Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 She just doesn't like it. She's whining at me cause I suggested it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 She just doesn't like it. She's whining at me cause I suggested itLol.. just a little herbally for my taste. Still have to burn it though before I decide. So there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeanie353 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 :tiptoe: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChandlerWicks Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 See HS, 415 has HT already after 1 night! Jeanie, I'm so glad your blend is working! No more wax hopping![QUOTE=Beth;983491]The Lav Sage I just did last night in 415 has make-your-eyes-water CT, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnt_fingers Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 To answer the OP, I use paraffin (and beeswax). I started with paraffin when I was a kid in the 60s, but about 8 years ago I gave soy a try off and on for a few years. Soy just doesn't do it for me. Scent throw cold or hot has been disappointing. I know others have had excellent results with soy - just not me. Even my wife prefers paraffin candles over soy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justajesuschick Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 It comes down to personal preference. Each wax has benefits and each has drawbacks.For me, I chose what I wanted to start with because I am just making for myself. I bought from a lot of commercial and indie makers and the waxes made with paraffin just happened to be my favorites so I chose that as my place from which to start. If I sold I would have to consider my area and my customer's demand/wishes.I have followed the advice to start with one and get to know how it works. I started with paraffin since it appeared to have less of a learning curve and variability for someone new. I have since ventured out and tried a variety of waxes (votive, pillar, container) but all still paraffin.I LOVE bakery so am tempted to try soy or a parasoy but am really trying to remember to just focus on getting the results I want with what I know first. I found this article while I was deciding for myself. Sorry that it is littered with ads in between the copy. http://www.ehow.com/about_6165480_paraffin-vs_-soy.htmlI may be content with what I have been doing but one day I will certainly want to try parasoy just so I can, as the others have said, find something I like more or be more certain that I should stick with what I know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkysCandles Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 I talked to someone a long time about soy vs. paraffin and they told me the same thing. That although the SOY wax itself is a natural product, it burns not much different then paraffin because the FOs you put in your wax are not 100% natural. Unless you are a magician and are able to create an all natural FO, which is not possible. Therefor at some point the candle will produce soot. We just try tour best to create the perfect combination that reduces that. There is a market for soy and that's why I do both. I have contemplating going to only paraffin or doing a blend. Soy is a big headache sometimes. I guess those that succeed with it are the lucky ones. LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeanie353 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 See HS, 415 has HT already after 1 night! Jeanie, I'm so glad your blend is working! No more wax hopping![QUOTE=Beth;983491]The Lav Sage I just did last night in 415 has make-your-eyes-water CT, lol.I thought I was done wax hopping back in Spring then the wax bug bit. Tried many and am right back to where I was settled in the Spring. No more wax hopping for me! CBL blend and 415 for soy :whoohoo: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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