evesorto Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Hi,I am going to make some mp soap. I am not crazy about brown soaps so I know that I shouldn't use fo with vanilla. I would love some suggestions of fo's that do not turn brown and are strong smelling. ThanksEve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWickedWick Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 I personally use fo's from WSP and Nature's Garden. Both list vanilla content insuring my soaps and lotions do not turn brown. Wish more companies did this! I've been very pleased with all I've received. Some I may not have personally liked scent-wise but all performed wonderful. When an fo does have vanilla I use WSP's Vanilla Stabilizer and have had no problems...this way I'm not limiting myself to strictly vanilla-free scents (which leaves out a lot of bakery stuff). HTHKaren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candybee Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 Although vanilla is a big culprit for turning soap color to brown it is not the only oil that will do that. Just use vanilla stabilizer for those FOs. WSP has a good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evesorto Posted February 20, 2010 Author Share Posted February 20, 2010 Thanks for the info regarding the stablizer, I may have to look into that in the future. I just felt like doing something today with a block of mp that I bought in Dec.The scents that I settled on (4-5 bars each):Cranberry Fig - colored it purple/pinkCoolwater/men - colored it lt. blueMystic Woods - colored it green/whiteCoco Beach - colored it peachSweet Amber musk - colored it pink, it seems to have discolred to lt. tanGinger Lime - green and it seems to have discolred lt. tanSea Island Grapefruit - colored it yellow/whiteIndonesian Teak - colored it blue/whiteNow, I guess only time will tell if they darken. What I wasn't crazy about was how scents like Orange Chiffon Cake, Pink Sugar, etc turn very dark brown and make a brown lather - I was hoping to avoid that. We'll see,Eve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angel629c Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 I second the vanilla stabilizer. It is not very expensive, and it works wonders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodle Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Although vanilla is a big culprit for turning soap color to brown it is not the only oil that will do that. Just use vanilla stabilizer for those FOs. WSP has a good one.I always use the one from WSP. It is very inexpensive and does the job. However, it understandably only works on oils that contain vanilla. There are a few florals that I use which discolor the base a yellow tinge or brown and there is nothing that changes this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soychic Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 I use the Vanilla Browning Neutralizer from WSP which works for soap AND lotions containing Vanilla. You have to look at the ingredients in your FO and see how much vanilla it contains. I think I read that if the FO contains more than 1-3% it may turn your products brown. You have to watch because tropical scents have vanilla in them too and not just bakery scents.I bought it because I really do not want my body butters or lotions turning brown. I don't think that would be too appealing. Plus, the color change doesn't just occur immediately. The color change can take up to a few months and I think if the color started changing when in the customer's posession, they may think that it is going BAD.Janine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candybee Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 You have to look at the ingredients in your FO and see how much vanilla it contains. I think I read that if the FO contains more than 1-3% it may turn your products brown. I have never seen a % of ingredients listed for FOs at any supppliers sites. What supplier do you know that does this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luci Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 I've used cucumber melon from several suppliers, and none have turned brown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soychic Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 I have never seen a % of ingredients listed for FOs at any supppliers sites. What supplier do you know that does this?Natures Garden Fragrances list the amt of vanillin in the fragrance oil.http://www.naturesgardencandles.com/Take Coco Mango for example, I was surprised that it had 7% of vanilla in it. And Vanilla Bean had 9%.Both of those soaps turned brown over a period of a month. Coco mango turned into a milk chocolate color but then when I started usin it in the shower it got even darker. The Vanilla Bean turned into a dark brown. I really don't mind the brown in soap, but like I said before, somebody else using it might think otherwise if their soap is starting to get browner and browner when using it in the shower...hahaha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candybee Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Thats good to know soychic. Good for NG for listing their vanilla! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWickedWick Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Listing of the vanilla % in fo's is one of the reasons I buy most my oils from NG. Not a big fan of surprises or guessing which one will turn or not. Besides, they have great fo's IMO...very few I have not liked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soychic Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 I agree wicked wick! I Love NG's FO's, they are the best!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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