hewitt1995 Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Ok, all you cb advanced lovers,come talk to me! do you cure, for how long, and how do I get the best scent throw everytime?Also do you find that a particular supplier of FO just plain works better in the advanced?Tell me what you have learned!! eager to learn all I can!mindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grama Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Well Miindy, I learned to switch to C-3 :p Love the look of CBA but just couldn't get the throw I wanted. Someone on this board said that the spicier scents threw better in this wax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen0305 Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Well, I love the look (as many others) of the advanced...I think it makes a really beautiful candle...as far as the HT, I have only found a few sofar, from CS honeydew melon, lilac, cinnamon sticks, cinnamon bunn, pumpkin souflee, and very vanilla have all been up to my standards with the HT at 1oz PP....I have tried many others from CS but, not many made the cut...also I let cure for 4 days if that helps you any!!! I since then gave up on the CB ADV. and now use it with a blend of 464 wax...so I feel I get the best of both waxes.. HTHJEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circle Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 Well Miindy, I learned to switch to C-3 :p Love the look of CBA but just couldn't get the throw I wanted. Someone on this board said that the spicier scents threw better in this wax.Me too, switched to C3. HT is not good in CB advanced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScentedLuxuries Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 I used that wax for a few years, and needless to say I am testing other soy waxes now because I want to switch. Although CBA makes a pretty candle, the scent throw is lacking. Every now and then you'll get one that has a good throw, but more times than not they aren't so rgeat. They need a long cure time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 Being a "CB Advanced Lover" is a temporary condition. What most people learn is just not to use it. Here and there you might find a candlemaker in denial who continues to insist it works. Or maybe they've never experienced a strong scent throw and don't know what they're missing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScentedLuxuries Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 Exactly! I used CBA from the get go and had nothing to compare it to. That was a mistake. I had no idea how much better the other soy waxes are. I'm tempted to throw away the last of my CBA (about 20 pounds). That really says a lot about the wax, doesn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hewitt1995 Posted August 2, 2009 Author Share Posted August 2, 2009 well, this is exactly what I needed to hear!So what soy wax do you all feel has the BEST throw?? and if frosting or other issues how do you fix them??I will need to start testing others and need to know where to start! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beechcreekcandles Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 From TopofmurrayhillBeing a "CB Advanced Lover" is a temporary condition. What most people learn is just not to use it. Here and there you might find a candlemaker in denial who continues to insist it works. Or maybe they've never experienced a strong scent throw and don't know what they're missing.I am offended by the above remark. First of all...having been making candles for the past 30 years, I feel I must reply to this. We use CB Advanced in our containers candles...have excellent HT and CT, and wouldn't continue to be in business if we didn't have the customers or wholesale accounts to keep us there. We have tested and continue to test many of the soy waxes available in order to continue our commitment to providing our customers with the highest quality product we can manufacture. I am NOT in denial...perhaps just more experienced! I KNOW what an excellent HT and CT is...thank you! Quite frankly I'm not missing a thing. Perhaps those who make parafin candles could better advise others that make parafin candles and NOT those of us who know how to make excellent SOY candles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 No need to get your shorts in a twist. You don't even use straight CBA. That stuff doesn't throw worth a damn and everyone knows it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beechcreekcandles Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 Without going into details, I have mentioned in a previous post that CBA is the base for our proprietary blend....90% is CBA...I highly doubt that the remaining 10% is giving us the excellent results we are obtaining. IMHO, CBA does give great HT given the right formula of wicking and FO load. Enough said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 I dunno, fellas... the manufacturer puts it like this when they compare their waxes:http://www.ngiwax.com/wax-comparisons"EcoSoya™ CB-135 has excellent adhesion to containers without preheating, requires only one pour, has an excellent scent throw with both fragrances and essential oils and a creamy white appearance with some potential to bloom (white frosting) when using dyes..."EcoSoya™ CB-Advanced Soy has extreme resistance to bloom (white frosting) and “wet spots”. It contracts slightly to produce a uniform beautiful appearance, requires only one pour, has good scent throw with both fragrances and essential oils, and a creamy white appearance."People have repeatedly complained that CBA has a great appearance, but doesn't have a good enough hot throw for them. I don't think ALL of the people complaining are lacking in proper expertise to match wicks & FOs to balance for the best HT... Perhaps what you are adding IS making a difference!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScentedLuxuries Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 You're right Stella, and I agree with you 100%I've worked with it (CBA) for about 4 years. Time to throw in the towel. I am testing GB464, CB135, C-3, and ALL of them perform better than CBA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmeroo Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 I agree as well, I have used CBA for 3 years and striaght up only certain fo's seem to work in it..(from CS),imho,I then mixed it 50/50 with 415,I did get the best of both world's,but thten i was buying 2 waxes.I decided to go back to the C3,which I had originally(10yrs ago) started with,now i am sticking with C3.I have had excellent results with it with no problems and only one wax...Kimmeroo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lsbennis Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 I used Avanced briefly and got frustrated with it...now I use GB 464 with healthy amounts of Paraffin....:tiptoe: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circle Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Being a "CB Advanced Lover" is a temporary condition. What most people learn is just not to use it. Here and there you might find a candlemaker in denial who continues to insist it works. Or maybe they've never experienced a strong scent throw and don't know what they're missing.I totally agree, Top Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circle Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Without going into details, I have mentioned in a previous post that CBA is the base for our proprietary blend....90% is CBA...I highly doubt that the remaining 10% is giving us the excellent results we are obtaining. IMHO, CBA does give great HT given the right formula of wicking and FO load. Enough said.10% is HUGE, if you put 10% beeswax in (for example) you would have a very, very, different candle. Firstly it would fall out of the glass when you turned it upside down, secondly it totally changes the size of the wick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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