LeahRB Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 I have been using 4630 for a while and I think it is great. I have never really had many problems with it, but the last few candles I have made have been cracking at the top. Not small cracks, but deep, earthquake looking cracks:confused: . I've always cooled on top of the counter with no problems, but after seeing this I tried cooling in the oven. I just went and checked those candles and they have cracks too. Has this happened to anyone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jokerjen Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 That IS wierd! I have been using that wax for years and have NEVER had that problem. I wonder if you got a funky batch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeahRB Posted April 5, 2009 Author Share Posted April 5, 2009 I might of. I have been using it for a while and have never seen this happen. Hopefully just a bad batch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jokerjen Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 I would ask your supplier, maybe there have been other complaints and maybe they might send you a replacement. It is the only reason I can see.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeahRB Posted April 5, 2009 Author Share Posted April 5, 2009 I would ask your supplier, maybe there have been other complaints and maybe they might send you a replacement. It is the only reason I can see.... Probably a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajna Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 theres was a thread about this a while back. IGI had reformulated thier 4630 and changed the formula on it. they have recently gone back to the old formula. IGI recommended pouring the wax about 10 degrees hotter. some suppliers have recieved the good batch again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane42 Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 We received a case of 4630 in December that I am guessing was the new formula, but we didn't have a problem with cracking. Our issue was that when it cooled it had a "wavy" top - not smooth like it usually was. The wax was much harder to cut - not as hard as votive wax, but did quite a number on our cutting tool! We tested a few different scents and they seemed to burn the same, so that was not an issue.We have since received several new cases from a different supplier and it is like what we are used to and pours and sets like it always did.I would definitely call the supplier and I hope they have some answers. When I called a few suppliers trying to find cases of the "old formula", they had no idea what I was talking about but assured me that their 4630 was the softer wax. We ended up purchasing from Candlescience. Our normal supplier, who we ended up getting the one case of the newer formula, was Candles and Supplies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demenshia Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 Just got back into the swing of things myself and had the same problem with 4630 with it setting with the wavy top. Thought maybe I missed something as I hadn't made candles in about a year and had just received a new batch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 How is it physically possible for a fairly soft and oily blend like 4630 to crack? That stuff must have changed a lot since the last time I used it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeahRB Posted April 6, 2009 Author Share Posted April 6, 2009 How is it physically possible for a fairly soft and oily blend like 4630 to crack? That stuff must have changed a lot since the last time I used it.I have no idea. It feels the same to me, looks the same, and even burns the same. I guess that is why these craters are so confusing to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeahRB Posted April 6, 2009 Author Share Posted April 6, 2009 theres was a thread about this a while back. IGI had reformulated thier 4630 and changed the formula on it. they have recently gone back to the old formula. IGI recommended pouring the wax about 10 degrees hotter. some suppliers have recieved the good batch again.What temp did they say to pour at? I always pour at 170. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brenda (OH) Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 I have a batch that is very hard to cut but it is not cracking nor does it have wavy tops I am blending mine with 464 and pouring around 145* - 150*.ETA: I got mine from The Candlemaker's Store Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillowBoo Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 Not to get off the subject at hand with 4630. Does anyone else get a slimy film on the sides of their jars with 4630? Just curious.Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeahRB Posted April 6, 2009 Author Share Posted April 6, 2009 Not to get off the subject at hand with 4630. Does anyone else get a slimy film on the sides of their jars with 4630? Just curious.Thanks,Do you mean like wax hang up or is this something that the wax has left behind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillowBoo Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 something the wax has left behind, not hangup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillowBoo Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 It is also happening with 4627 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 Oily isoparaffinic blends can leave a film. It's not unusual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajna Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 try pouring it about 180-185 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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