tarynjms Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 I bought the KY "Soy Whipped Body Cream" base about 2 months ago and have been testing many fo's with it. I like the base very much & plan on using it as a "body butter" since it is so thick & rich. I'm having a problem though. Many of the fo's I've tested it in are causing the base to turn colors. It starts off as a nice white base. I was expecting the "vanillas" to possibly do this, but many other fo's are doing this as well. The ones that contain a high vanilla content are turning brown within a few days. The other oils have turned not as dark, but dark all the same over the past few weeks. Has anyone encountered this, who has used this base? The feedback on the base itself has been very positive & people can't wait until I finish testing all my oils in this, so that they can get some of this stuff. I myself have been using it unscented, straight from the pail & my hands & feet are loving it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQueen Posted May 4, 2008 Share Posted May 4, 2008 Yes, I have KY Soy Whipped Body Butter and I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT. However, you must expect it to turn somewhat brownish when using any FO containing vanilla, even in small amounts. That will happen regardless of whose lotion/butter you use. It doesn't bother me at all. And why not sell it unscented? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meridith Posted May 4, 2008 Share Posted May 4, 2008 You can try some of the vanilla stabilizer that BCN has. I've recently been using it in my butters and lotions and so far so good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deb12c Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 I just ordered my fourth gallon of it. I have scented it with a lot of different fragrances. None have turned colors on me. I have used Warm Vanilla Sugar and it stayed white, it's been months now. (Since December). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinipela Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 I'm almost at the end of my 2nd gallon, and I've never had one turn colors. I've used heavy vanilla fragrances too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasBrat Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 Oh yes it turns colors. I made Jamaican me Crazy and it turned brown. Cotton candy and KY's Cleopatra turns it brown too. I didn't find it to be bad it turned colors at least nobody said anything that I sold it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deb12c Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 I guess it depends on the scent used then because none of mine have turned even an off white. They are still as white as they were before mixing in fragrance. I might add some color to some of mine to match the scents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassy-girl Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 I use it alot and yes, if often turns colors. The quickeness with which it darkens can vary by your location. High humidity in MD causes my vanillas to darken quicker than the dry heat my sister has in CA. I always just explain to my customers why it happens. never had anyone who really cared.. they just love the feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scentsme Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 Having the very same problem here too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmoopie Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 I would color mine.... for those of you who use color, do you still have problems with it turning a funky color?AND what do you sell these for.... say 4 oz. and 8 oz....... retail and wholesale.Thanks for any help, just finding that making my own is way too time consuming, especially on large wholesale orders.Schmoop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracey Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 I have used it since Vickey introduced it and everyone loves it. I do color mine and have not had many issues with a color change. I have had vanillas turn the color before, but once people know it's "okay" it's not a big deal....Tracey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmoopie Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 What are your price points, if you don't mind me asking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracey Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 I don't mind. I only have 1 size at this point. I do a 4.25 oz jar and sell for $6.00. No one minds the price at all--they flew off the table at the last Show I did. Some does depend on your area. You may be able to charge a little more than that too.Tracey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazycacti Posted May 11, 2008 Share Posted May 11, 2008 think i am gonna have to invest in some--more for myself then selling!!if live in arizona and it takes a while for things to get delivered sometimes-since they like to come when no one is home--should i wait until after summer to order?willl it melt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DONNAMAC Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 No, it won't melt. I had a little in the bottom and the sides of the big jar it comes in and I was wanting to get it all out into some smaller jars. I filled my sink with super hot water and tried to melt it down enough to get it all out. It didn't melt or liquify even a little bit. I love this stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinipela Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 Donna - A rubber spatula works great for getting it all out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarynjms Posted May 15, 2008 Author Share Posted May 15, 2008 My list of FO's that turn this base brown is growing longer, day by day. I can't believe nobody else has found this to be a problem. The more I test, the more fo's turn this base brown, some very dark brown. It's such a shame because me & my testers loved this base unscented. Some are taking as little as 2 days to turn brown. I wasn't planning on testing every single oil I own in it, but I guess I'll have to test as asked for, if I decide to use this base. I would have to delay giving the order out. I'd have to hold it back for a week to make sure it didn't turn before giving it. Usually I make stuff to order & it goes out as soon as it's made. But if I made this in an oil that would turn it brown, I wouldn't know because I'd have packaged it & sent it out while still white & then the customer would get it & it would turn brown on them in a few days. I'm so frustrated because I truly love this base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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