TxGirl Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 I'm "playing" this weekend on a budget so I bought a bag of EZ Soy for the first time. I usually use CB Advance. Anyway, I'm wondering how you guys like it? Any tips on working with this wax would be appreciated. I'm gonna do a search now to see what I can find, but I thought I'd also post to get some real time replies. TIA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMommy Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 I am sure you will discover a lot of info. when you do a search here. The main problem for me with that wax is that the frosting is awful!!! I've tried additives but the frost always appears, if not right away within the a few days. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeCG Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 I'm new to EZSoy too. I haven't tried it yet, but I plan to this weekend. I think I will try it with no dyes and if it frosts it won't look so bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizimarezie Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 I used EZsoy for over a year and finally got fed up because of the frosting issues. BW helped somewhat with the problem but not long term, as KMommy said. My last resort would have been to not use any dye so that the frosting wasn't as noticeable. But, like you...I'm playing with other waxes now. EZsoy is a great throwing wax and burns really clean, though.Happy playing!:highfive: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 if dying, liquid dyes will create the most frosting. chips work great, but melt them down with the wax so they have a longer time to dissolve well.heat the wax to 175* add the fo, then let cool and pour at right about 100*. you want it either cloudy or even a bit slushy. this will give the smoothest tops possible without using a heat gun. or if you don't mind the heat gun, you can pour at a higher temp. but after they are burned, they will get the flakey tops. adding a bit of paraffin or beeswax can also help curb flaking/crusty tops after the pour and burns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxGirl Posted July 29, 2007 Author Share Posted July 29, 2007 Ack - I hate the stuff! Thanks for all of your replies. It's lumpy and ugly and frosts like snow! No thank you! I'll go back to my CB Advanced on my next order. Thank goodness I only ordered 10 pounds! I am still going to work with it until I use it up - who knows maybe I'll find a way to make it work. I did a blend and that helped, but still I really don't like it at all. The wick I used before doesn't work in this stuff and it even drowns and dies after a short time. And there is nothing I hate dealing with more than wick issues. I will stick to what worked for me and use the Advanced. I do agree, however ... The scent throw is good! Too bad it looks so bad. It's too dry and brittle in my opinion. Not "oily" enough like the Advanced is. Anyway, thanks again!Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soycrazy Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 Yup the frosting is crazy, but it's 100% soy I love to use it in soap & balms though. I never realized though how bad the frosting was until I tried a blend and the blend hardly frosted. So now I might try the cb advanced, does that frost at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxGirl Posted July 29, 2007 Author Share Posted July 29, 2007 CB Advanced will frost some, but if poured properly not very much (or any) at all. It does set up nice, smooth tops and all. I like it way better than the EZSoy.I'm testing an EZSoy candle right now. I will say that it has a good scent and it is very clean burning but the flame seems so wimpy. Must have a high melt point. The ones I poured last night, most cracked around the edges so I had to rewarm them a little to smooth them. The more I play with it the more I can deal with it better with it's crazy little flaws, but .... I had to do a 75 Soy/25 IGI6006 blend. It still looks and behaves very much like soy which is what I want, but a little more manageable is good - the straight EZSoy is just awful.PS. I think with the rest of it I'm going to do a 50/50 blend to use it all up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizimarezie Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 I have about 8 more pounds of EZsoy to use up. What are you going to blend yours with? I was thinking of just using mine to play and learn how to do whipped wax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxanne Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 I use EZ Soy and like it. With 96% EZ Soy and 4% beeswax, I get nice, smooth tops both before and after burning. I do get frost, but frost doesn't bother me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jami Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 EZ Soy and GB 415 are one in the same. The melt point is 120-125. I pour mine when it has a tomato juice consistence or "slushy". I have always had smooth tops when I pour cool but the frosting drove me insane.I blend mine with 30% IGI 4627 to eliminate frosting. It does have great scent throw for most scents though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soycrazy Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Straight ezsoy makes great whipped wax it comes out really nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3bees~1flower Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Ack - I hate the stuff! Thanks for all of your replies. It's lumpy and ugly and frosts like snow! No thank you! I'll go back to my CB Advanced on my next order. Thank goodness I only ordered 10 pounds! I am still going to work with it until I use it up - who knows maybe I'll find a way to make it work. I did a blend and that helped, but still I really don't like it at all. The wick I used before doesn't work in this stuff and it even drowns and dies after a short time. And there is nothing I hate dealing with more than wick issues. I will stick to what worked for me and use the Advanced. I do agree, however ... The scent throw is good! Too bad it looks so bad. It's too dry and brittle in my opinion. Not "oily" enough like the Advanced is. Anyway, thanks again!Kimwow...i started with and still use ex soy...i get very little frosting and if poured at the right temp, never get lumpy tops. i only heat mine to 160*..cool to 120* then add my fo, then let it continue to cool till it's quite thick and slushy....i have very few candles that don't turn out. imo, it's very oily.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxGirl Posted August 1, 2007 Author Share Posted August 1, 2007 Maybe it's just this weather in Texas. Rain, rain and more rain, high humidity and hot. I did a 50/50 blend with the ez soy and 6006 to use it all up. It was better, but there were wicking issues. I still want to go back to my CBA. Thank you for all of the replies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindsaycb Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 I love EZ Soy...I deal with the uglies & people love them. I'm not going to complain! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nanny Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Has anyone tried coconut oil in EZ Soy? I have 10 pounds that I have not tried yet and not sure if coconut oil would help frosting or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizimarezie Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 Nanny, I tried CO in EZsoy and it worked a bit better than using BW. I thought EZsoy alone was ugly. Adding 3% BW helped make the tops smoother and cut down on some frost. CO helped reduce the frost even more. But...I was going for NO frost and that just wasn't working. But, maybe I gave up before I should have. I was just tired of fighting with this wax after so long.As for throw (which wasn't my objective)...in my opinion, BW and/or CO didn't improve the already fabulous throw that EZsoy can give. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nanny Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 Did you use the same amount of CO as you did BW? And thank you for your response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misser Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 This is the only wax I have ever used. It's easy to work with, but the frosting on the wax is terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nanny Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 I used EZ Soy yesterday for the first time. I used 1 pound, 1/2 t coconut oil, small amount of color. So far have no cracking, no frosting, no wet spots and have smooth, shinny top. Really a great looking candle with stong cold throw. Is it just to early to be seeing any of the ugly things happening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 EZ Soy and GB 415 are one in the same.Jami, do you know this to be true, or is this an assumption based on the melting temps, etc.? Just wondering if it is a private brand of GB 415 or simply a similar wax... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizimarezie Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 I used EZ Soy yesterday for the first time. I used 1 pound, 1/2 t coconut oil, small amount of color. So far have no cracking, no frosting, no wet spots and have smooth, shinny top. Really a great looking candle with stong cold throw. Is it just to early to be seeing any of the ugly things happening?Nanny, that was the amount of CO I used (1/2 tsp pp wax). The candle turned out great as you mention but it did start getting some frost toward the bottom of the jar after a few days. If I wanted to continue experimenting with the EZsoy and CO combination, my next step/test would have been to place something between the jar and the cold countertop...something like a few napkins or a potholder to keep the bottom of the jar as warm as the top of the jar was/is before filling the jar. It just seemed odd to me that the frost was only at the bottom of the jar and THAT is where 'temperature' may have been an issue and could very well have been the cause of the frost. (I hope I'm writing this in a way that it makes sense).Stella, I've also been under the impression that GB 415 is the same as EZsoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 Sounds like the heat was greater at the bottom of your candles... We use wire cookie racks and allow some room around each container for air to circulate. We sometimes cover ours with a big box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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