ah-soy Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 One of the cheap ones, less than 5 bucks...so I warmed two all C3 soy candles on it tonight in 8oz stubby ball jars. They smelled great. Then I read the warning on the insert..."using vegetable based wax candles on the warmer is likely to cause the candle to explode"...OK so much for my great idea to package my wickless soy candles with a warmer in a gift set. :undecided Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaskitchen Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 I have one of those warmers, and I have never had a soy based candle explode. I have mine on for hours on end; no problems! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgirl Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Email the company and ask them why??I know I would be interested in their answer.I put my soy on the warmers for hours , Never had an explosion!!!:smiley2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silkysoycreations Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Wow, sure would like to know...i've been putting my goofed up wicked C3s on the warmer so I can at least enjoy the fragrance. You think it's all warmers?? I never even read the directions to see that. Keep us posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubbleBath Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 I did a quick search and found this thread.http://www.candletech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8143 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luci Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 I've got a ton of badly wicked soy container candles. I keep a warmer beside my bed and warm those screw ups for hours at a time. I feel I need to at least enjoy the scent! I have never read the warning and have never had a problem, either. When the scent is gone I just pour out the remaining wax so I can wash and reuse my container. Mine's a cheapie--got it at Michael's for $2.34. They had a sale going on last year and I bought a doz to give as gifts! I also use mine for my coffee cup in the a.m. if I'm poking around drinking it. Lots of secretaries use theirs to keep a cup of soup warm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ah-soy Posted July 26, 2006 Author Share Posted July 26, 2006 Thanks Bubble Bath, good thread. Doesn't seem like anyone has had any problems but that warning must be there for some reason. I guess though I'd better not package them in gift packs. Sure to be some problems when customers read that and I certainly don't want to be liable if anyone does explode a wickless. I'm going to check a couple of other companies to see if theirs also carry that warning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kymber Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 We have been using soy candles on warmers for over a year now and have never seen that warning....and have never had one explode or even crack a container. Maybe something new they have started...adding that to the warning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luci Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 They put that on there for the same reason there is a warning on the frozen pizza box to remove the pizza from the box and cook it. And don't eat the box. We live in a society that is sue-happy and also full of really stupid people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carol k Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 i think i read that on millcreek's message board when they had one.if i remember correctly someone had sold a candle in a tin to someone and they said it explored all over their wall, the wax just exploded. i think it is because when it heats up and expands it finds a weak spot in the wax and explodes, i suggest to people to use something to poke a hole to the bottom of the candle container to help releive the pressure. personally i've not had any trouble with a candle exploding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest candelecandlecompany Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Wow I never knew that could happen with the soy. Especially since sometimes it doesn't burn as hot as the paraffin. Maybe since soy is relatively new, people don't know much about it (especially the ones who don't use it), so they put that warning on it to cover their tushies. We have been using candle warmers and soy for a couple of years and never even had a problem like that. If you call the company, let me know what they say as to why they put that on the warning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubbleBath Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Email the company and ask them why??I emailed them yesterday (Provo Craft, was on the other thread) and asked. Have not had a response yet. Will keep you posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ah-soy Posted July 28, 2006 Author Share Posted July 28, 2006 I'm anxious to hear what they say...thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgirl Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Hey BubbleBath.. Have the given you an answer yet??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candlewitch Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 It is a safeguard against people who like to sue and a world run by lawyers. Nothing is going to explode. (soy) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelaVA Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 It is a safeguard against people who like to sue and a world run by lawyers. Nothing is going to explode. (soy)Exactly. This has been discussed before if you want to do a search on it. The probability of an explosion is extremely low. I wouldn't waste time worrying about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissMargie Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 I believe I know why the concern. If you place a large candle on the warmer, something like a 22 oz or a tall narrow jar of any size much over 10 oz, you run the risk of bursting the glass. When a candle is on a warmer, it melts from the bottom up. As the wax at the bottom melts, it expands. Since the top wax hasn't melted, it acts like a plug leaving no room for the melt to expand. Pressure builds and sometimes the glass bursts. So, the deeper the container, the longer it takes for the top to melt and more chance of a pressure burst.I've included in my warnings to buyers that since this is a possibility, they should use caution when using warmers for smaller candles and suggest that they never warm a candle 12 oz or larger. I could use one of the high/low temp adjustable warmers and use only the lower setting, or even poke holes in the candle... I could and I do use them at home... but I'm nervous about what might happen when my customers get the candle to their home and my liability insurance is high enough.The only truly safe warmers (IMO) are the deep, enclosed ones that surround the candle completely... like the Crazy Mountain brand. You get a slightly more uniform melt and even if the jar does break, the wax isn't going anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgirl Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 MissMargie....Now that makes a lot of sense... It is like when I use my Turk n Surf melter.... When reheating the wax, I need to put the lid on it becasue it does explode from it heating the bottom up...:highfive: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fern-Marie Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 I did a lot of checking on these before I sold them.IMO, Miss Margie is correct. Also, I will add that some ppl are dumb enough to leave the covers on...that may cause a problem.In addition, the large jars will crack the sides of the warmers. A properly fitting jar...that which fits on the black heating element without overlapping, is what should be used. Unfortunately, on the packages of the warmers you will see a picture of a large jar...dumb, dumb, dumb. Not gonna work.It will take over a day to melt it well, then it takes so long to melt, ppl will leave it on there and not shut it off just to avoid the extended melting time.NO, I'm not kidding. They tell me this so proudly too. :rolleyes2 Short, squatty, tureens such as the ones sold at Candle Science are perfect. They fit as though the warmers were made for them, and they get fully melted within a half an hour to forty five minutes. And they're tough...I've dropped quite a few of them and not so much as a chip or crack occurred.Remember: When you purchase warmers, you are the consumer. You have the right to expect the product to perform properly under normal circumstances. Be careful of accepting liabilities of a manufacturer. You have no control over manufacturing of the product.Fern-Marie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheslayph Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Hello, joining this thread ‘cause I’ve been researching why my soy candle bought from b&bw exploded. Using plate warmer. I think there’s a science in it. I would compare it with the volcano. Since there’s too much heat pressure at the bottom(wax is melting from the bottom to top) the solid on top is blocking the heat pressure from below and it is trying to find an exit to release it but since there’s none it exploded. To avoid it happening again, i made sure when the candle’s melted almost half , i poke a hole in the middle using toothpick to release the pressure , so far it works! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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