ignitethesenses Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 What are some fats that make a VERY hard bar? Preferably fats that are very stable. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janis Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 You can get hard bars by using coconut oil, palm kernal oil, and babassu oil. You need to understand that these oils are also drying, so the important thing is to get the right balance between conditioning and hardness that will give you your optimum bar. These oils are also the ones that bubble the most.There are other oils that will increase hardness that aren't as drying, but don't contribute to lather. Butters would fall into this category as well as olive oil.Palm and lard are different in that they are both hard (not as hard as co, pko, and babassu, though) and contribute somewhat to lather, as well. They are not drying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sudsnwicks Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 Cocoa butter will give you a hard bar too. So does shea butter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meridith Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 I think that lard gives you a very nice hard bar that lathers well. I've heard tallow does as well so hopefully I'll have the chance to find that out for myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 Add 1% stearic acid to any recipe for a super hard bar. Traces quick, gels quick, and can be cut quick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatinDucky Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 Add 1% stearic acid to any recipe for a super hard bar. Traces quick, gels quick, and can be cut quick!Is that the same kind we use in candles?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrie Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 Is that the same kind we use in candles??Yes, it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meridith Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 Add 1% stearic acid to any recipe for a super hard bar. Traces quick, gels quick, and can be cut quick!I've known that and even have stearic but for some reason I have never tried that. I'll have to try it. Other than making for a harder bar, does it change the soap in other way and what would happen if you put in more than the 1%? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignitethesenses Posted August 7, 2005 Author Share Posted August 7, 2005 Thanks! I'll give palm (as well as different butters...already using olive) a try, as I want to steer clear of animal products (thats what the lard is right? meat derived?)I'll also pick up some stearic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugenia Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 Yep, lard and tallow are animal products, as are some oils, like emu. You can try the babassu too!eThanks! I'll give palm (as well as different butters...already using olive) a try, as I want to steer clear of animal products (thats what the lard is right? meat derived?)I'll also pick up some stearic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignitethesenses Posted August 7, 2005 Author Share Posted August 7, 2005 Where can I get babassu? I've read that name somewhere and wanted to check it out..but have no clue who carries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystical_angel1219 Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 You can get it at Columbus Foods. http://www.soaperschoice.com/cgi-soaperschoice/Web_store/web_store.cgi?query_price_low_range=0&cart_id=$cart_id Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignitethesenses Posted August 7, 2005 Author Share Posted August 7, 2005 Thanks! There's definately some good prices there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystical_angel1219 Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 Thanks! There's definately some good prices there!Your welcome. Great prices and FAST shipping!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 More than 1% of stearic and it'll trace super duper fast and you'll have soap on a stick.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrysoaper Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 I make a hard bar consisting of soybean oil, olive oil and coconut oil!! I have great reviews from customers, they love it! If you would like the recipe, let me know. Terri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignitethesenses Posted August 8, 2005 Author Share Posted August 8, 2005 Terri, I'd love to have the recipe Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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