TallTayl Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 I lit a candle last night that I gave up on early in the year. Scent filled two rooms and lingered. Relit this morning and scent quickly wafted. WHY must midwest soy take months to show itself? WHY must it take months to simply harden up? both rhetorical questions, but always my frustrated outcry when I use midwest blends. the blend was a test using a vegetable oil thickener/emulsifier. I was 100% sure it killed the throw in the earlier tests. Anyone familiar with midwest soy knows it is not all that great as a stand alone wax and is quite finicky to heat an pour without issues (graining, seeping, pooling, etc). Midwest is not all that great in blends when you need instant satisfaction either. It takes its sweet time to reveal its secrets. patience can be well rewarded, though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franu61 Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Midwest waxes are supposed to be the same waxes that WERE enchanted lites. Regular 100% soy and the millenium blend. THOSE waxes were wonderful, especially millenium. I don't recall having to wait even a week for a 2 room filling scent. NOTHING is as good as it used to be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted September 23, 2022 Author Share Posted September 23, 2022 1 hour ago, franu61 said: Midwest waxes are supposed to be the same waxes that WERE enchanted lites. Regular 100% soy and the millenium blend. THOSE waxes were wonderful, especially millenium. I don't recall having to wait even a week for a 2 room filling scent. NOTHING is as good as it used to be Enchanted lites is what I remember too. All good things come to an end. What would be the candle wax related version of “Valar Morghulis”? I’ve been using MW in various things for several years. Always sets up kind of soft, then after a few weeks it hardens well. Same soft to hardening happens in blends of any% MW also. Reminds me of how concrete takes so long to “cure”. Once it’s cured watch out it’s so nice. Without the many typical commercial blend additives it burns so clean, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzy Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 5 hours ago, franu61 said: Midwest waxes are supposed to be the same waxes that WERE enchanted lites. Regular 100% soy and the millenium blend. THOSE waxes were wonderful, especially millenium. I don't recall having to wait even a week for a 2 room filling scent. NOTHING is as good as it used to be I've been wanting to try the Millenium. Simply because I am a glutton for punishment. Sigh. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franu61 Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 5 hours ago, TallTayl said: Enchanted lites is what I remember too. All good things come to an end. What would be the candle wax related version of “Valar Morghulis”? Never watched Game of Thrones, so I had no idea, thought you were talking about another wax. LOL! Then I googled the phrase . My take on the candle wax version would be "all wax manufacturers that keep changing the formulas, must die" 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AudraT Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Are you guys talking about the American Soy Organics Midwest and millennium waxes? Back when I was trying to find a good wax and I didn't know much about candle wax suppliers, I gave American Soy Organics Freedom wax a try. It's what I'm using right now and I do like the wax very much. I am very new to candle making so I don't know if there are better soy waxes out there or if Freedom wax is actually considered not bad / pretty good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted January 17, 2023 Author Share Posted January 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, AudraT said: Are you guys talking about the American Soy Organics Midwest and millennium waxes? Back when I was trying to find a good wax and I didn't know much about candle wax suppliers, I gave American Soy Organics Freedom wax a try. It's what I'm using right now and I do like the wax very much. I am very new to candle making so I don't know if there are better soy waxes out there or if Freedom wax is actually considered not bad / pretty good. Yep. Midwest soy is comparable to GB 415. Millenium is comparable to GB464. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franu61 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 18 hours ago, AudraT said: Are you guys talking about the American Soy Organics Midwest and millennium waxes? Back when I was trying to find a good wax and I didn't know much about candle wax suppliers, I gave American Soy Organics Freedom wax a try. It's what I'm using right now and I do like the wax very much. I am very new to candle making so I don't know if there are better soy waxes out there or if Freedom wax is actually considered not bad / pretty good. Yup, it is a good wax. It just used to be so much better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted January 17, 2023 Author Share Posted January 17, 2023 2 hours ago, franu61 said: Yup, it is a good wax. It just used to be so much better that needs to be embroidered on a pillow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightLight Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 I am testing a number of their waxes right now. Is Millenium 464 or Freedom. Testing the coco-soy and their version of 6006. The coco-soy has insane adhesion BUT tops are hard to modify into pretty and it does not play well with additives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 Freedom was 464 from what I recall 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightLight Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Freedom is their version of 464, got that from the company. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waxboy Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 I've used Millenium for a few years. I always get urge to leave it behind, but I always come crawling back. LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted February 8, 2023 Author Share Posted February 8, 2023 17 hours ago, waxboy said: I've used Millenium for a few years. I always get urge to leave it behind, but I always come crawling back. LOL! I feel your pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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