TallTayl Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 perfectly temp controlled of which? the water in the water bath contained within the ferrous metal, or the inner wax contained within the non-ferrrous aluminum? "if" there is enough conduction and movement within the inner non-ferrous pot to effect the reading of the temp of the outer water jacket it "might" work. Without stirring often you will likely have the same hot spots/cold spots as any other heating method and the temp indicator will be hit or miss. Doesn't seem like there is a whole lot of set it and forget it with crafting. Honestly, a $20 griddle keeps up to 6 of my pour pots at the ready with no thought or antics to make it work... I belong to several boards where these things were talked about. not one has reported back that it lives up to the promises :-/ But if you have the free cash and tenacity to put it through its paces, I'd love if you would report back whether it works or not. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILikeWaxMelts Posted November 10, 2016 Author Share Posted November 10, 2016 1 hour ago, TallTayl said: Honestly, a $20 griddle keeps up to 6 of my pour pots at the ready with no thought or antics to make it work... I belong to several boards where these things were talked about. not one has reported back that it lives up to the promises :-/ TallTayl; Do you melt your wax in the pour pots; on the griddle with the griddle on the warm setting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 3 hours ago, ILikeWaxMelts said: TallTayl; Do you melt your wax in the pour pots; on the griddle with the griddle on the warm setting? Small amounts, sometimes. Mostly I use it to keep a pot warm, or to warm a pot that is cooling too quickly. It takes a lot of heat 'around' the pot to fully melt cold candle wax. today I used the griddle to melt 6 small stainless carafes of lip balm to flavor and color. So quick and easy. Then the griddle kept 6 small aluminum pots of beeswax melt ready to color and scent. Then while it was still warm, I leveled taper candle bottoms. It's a multi use tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILikeWaxMelts Posted November 11, 2016 Author Share Posted November 11, 2016 (edited) 9 hours ago, ILikeWaxMelts said: Since I'm using 4 lb. Aluminum Pour pots on this; and induction works of off magnetic; I will have to put my pour pots inside of a magnetic sauce pan as a double boiler anyway. in order to get the induction technology to work! But; the PLUS Side; of this setup would be that BOTH Burners are Individually and precisely temp. controlled! On 11/9/2016 at 1:49 PM, Flicker said: Sure it is. There are plenty of direct heat melters, people use presto pots which are direct heat. It would not be safe to put directly on a standard electric/gas burner...because they can not be controlled, however this can be and would be perfectly safe to do so. I Don't see why using pour pots inside of a sauce pan; on this temp. controlled induction stove in a double boiler setup would be any different then a temp. controlled Water Jacketed Wax Melter! Seems like it would be pretty much the same to me! I can always put some pea-rock in the bottom; so the pour pot is not sitting directly on the bottom of the sauce pan. and water can flow around the pour pot Edited November 11, 2016 by ILikeWaxMelts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 Like I wrote above, buy it and try it. Then report back to the group. srsly. Enough already. To quote a Nike slogan, "Just Do It". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldieMN Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 (edited) 19 hours ago, Scented said: The other thing to think about with prestos is that as you stir it will wear on the surface and cause it to flake ... it's something that just happens. I was going to mention this as well, the flaking of the interior surface leading to black flecks in the melted wax. One more thing (I go through quite a few candle-making mishaps ), I use to put my metal pour pots in a Presto Big Kettle of water to melt my wax. Had water getting into my wax but didn't figure it out until I had poured numerous candles. What had happened, the metal pour pot had developed a tiny hole in the bottom. So if you do go that route, check for holes. We happened to have a medium-sized electric roaster with a removable pan that I grabbed when the above happened. So far, so good. Looks kind of like the one in the link. Interior does not have a nonstick coating so nothing to flake off. I do have to say, I always use a digital thermometer in the wax that is melting even though I can set the temp on the roaster. I'm had it set at 150 degree and noticed the wax temp going higher than that. Maybe my control is off as this is an older model. http://www.nesco.com/products/Roaster-Ovens/6-Quart-Roaster-Oven/ Goldie Edited November 11, 2016 by GoldieMN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scented Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 5 hours ago, GoldieMN said: I was going to mention this as well, the flaking of the interior surface leading to black flecks in the melted wax. Goldie What I wish I could do is dedicate a rubber something to stirring my wax, but I will tend to always be on the lookout for something. However I did buy a new pot that flaked on the first go. It appears to have stopped flaking for the most part, but I have to keep alert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILikeWaxMelts Posted November 11, 2016 Author Share Posted November 11, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, Scented said: What I wish I could do is dedicate a rubber something to stirring my wax, but I will tend to always be on the lookout for something. However I did buy a new pot that flaked on the first go. It appears to have stopped flaking for the most part, but I have to keep alert. I'm considering using them wooden paint stirrer's for stirring my wax. The long ones; that they use to stir paint in 5-gallon buckets! But you could use the short ones too of course for wax; I'll use one's that have never been used in paint But I'm going to be stirring inside of aluminum pour pots. Edited November 11, 2016 by ILikeWaxMelts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chariste Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 I just use wooden spoons. I haven't had any flaking issues, I have a black non-stick presto and a larger grey one. I wonder if the FOs contribute to the flaking? I know they have eaten up the rubbery top of my scale but I have only scented in the pot a couple of times and always wipe them clean immediately. Just a thought. I would beware paint stirrers just be just because of splinters. But, to be fair, I have had an awful time with splinters lately, including a whole chip of wood under a thumbnail so... :s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 @scented If it flaked on the first use, return it. They should not flake at all. The only flaking I experienced was my first presto where I was making shampoo bars in it. All of the surfactants are sodium based - derp. Sodium and teflon do not work together. silicone spatulas do a great job of really moving the wax and scent around without adding air or scraping. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldieMN Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 4 hours ago, Chariste said: I just use wooden spoons. I haven't had any flaking issues, I have a black non-stick presto and a larger grey one. I wonder if the FOs contribute to the flaking? I know they have eaten up the rubbery top of my scale but I have only scented in the pot a couple of times and always wipe them clean immediately. Just a thought. I never put the fragrance oils in the Presto just soy wax. So, for me, it can't be that. Goldie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scented Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 I personally think the pots are tender to stirring, which unfortunately what I stirred with caused a scratch no doubt. I put the FO in there with the wax and don't have additional problems. I had one presto last about five years before it just got to be too slow heating. Now I've got two that get swapped out because of lack of space. One of these desperately needs to replaced, because it just wore after one use, which Tall is right ... send it back. Would have loved to have done so, but I have a partner who hates to return anything no matter what. He gets the wrong size underwear and he keeps it. Weird, I know. If I lived close to where he bought this one and knew for sure he bought it there I could have returned it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldieMN Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 6 hours ago, Scented said: I personally think the pots are tender to stirring, which unfortunately what I stirred with caused a scratch no doubt. I put the FO in there with the wax and don't have additional problems. I had one presto last about five years before it just got to be too slow heating. Now I've got two that get swapped out because of lack of space. One of these desperately needs to replaced, because it just wore after one use, which Tall is right ... send it back. Would have loved to have done so, but I have a partner who hates to return anything no matter what. He gets the wrong size underwear and he keeps it. Weird, I know. If I lived close to where he bought this one and knew for sure he bought it there I could have returned it. They all have their quirks don't they. (Partners) Goldie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILikeWaxMelts Posted November 17, 2016 Author Share Posted November 17, 2016 I'm Planning on being a Small Scale candle maker; I'm going to be focusing my advertising in the "Hand-Poured" Candles Direction. And Advertising that My candles are home-made; hand-poured; and made in small batches! And that I am NOT a Large Corporate Greed Business! I'm going to get me some large molds and eventually get into making Unity Candle Sets for Weddings; Which usually include a large diameter pillar; and a taper on each side one for the bride; and one for the groom. So I think this Temp. Controlled Double Burner Set-up may work for me. I Will Report back to you Fellow Crafters How it works out!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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