Candle guy Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Hey everyone is it possible to make container candles with this combo? Also I will be attempting wax melts. Any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belinda Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 I'm not sure about container candles (I've only made a few) but I think 4625 might be too hard. Why would you want to mix them for your container candles? I would think it would be better to mix 464 with 4630 or 4633 to get a para/soy container mix or just use 6006 and add more soy to it if you prefer using mostly soy.Mixing the two will make a good melt though. I use 4625 alone and mixed with a container wax for those but only use container wax when I make candles.But someone else with way more experience will have better advice to give you. I hope I haven't been more confusing to you!HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candle guy Posted December 6, 2015 Author Share Posted December 6, 2015 Thank you for your response I appreciate it. I figured that since I am making melts, I will have excess 4625 left over. Just didn't know if it were possible to mix them lol. I figured that it wouldn't be haha. Worth a shot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faerywren Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 I use 4625 in my parasoy tart blend with 415. For container candles with 464, I use 4630. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candle guy Posted December 6, 2015 Author Share Posted December 6, 2015 Awesome thanks a bunch everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flicker Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 The problem will be melt point. The 4625 has a 145* melt point which isn't good for melts. Most soy is around 125. Melts should not have a melt point over about 128*...so, If you use it, I wouldn't use much and honestly I wouldn't really recommend it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candle guy Posted December 7, 2015 Author Share Posted December 7, 2015 I have heard multiple suggestions pertaining to the melts. I have heard mixing 4625 with 464 is a good combination for melts but now I am hearing that it is not ugh lol. Has anyone tried using that combination for melts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I have heard multiple suggestions pertaining to the melts. I have heard mixing 4625 with 464 is a good combination for melts but now I am hearing that it is not ugh lol. Has anyone tried using that combination for melts?I would try a line blend to see if you like it.How: melt enough 464 and separately 4625 to make several meltsMake the first melt 95%464 5%4625 (for instance)For the next melt decrease 464/increase 4625 a % or two. Repeat decreasing 464 / increasing 4625 by the next proportional % until you have enough blends to satisfy your curiosity.Let them all cool, cure, etc. then melt and take good pics and notes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candle guy Posted December 8, 2015 Author Share Posted December 8, 2015 Tall tayl thank you for idea. I will give it a shot for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Tall tayl thank you for idea. I will give it a shot for sure.I use line blends for soap, candles, pottery, glaze, cooking, baking, etc. and have been very pleasantly surprised with all experiments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belinda Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I usually use 50/50 4625 and 4630 for my clamshells and cups. For shaped melts, I like them to be a lot firmer so I either use straight 4625 or mix a little 4630 in with it but not a whole lot. I've never had any problems with them not melting. There's one vendor that has a booming business and if I'm not mistaken her melts are straight 4625, or at least that's what they appear to be. The only time I have a problem getting them to melt completely is when they're in a square dish. They get hung up on the sides. That doesn't mean that's what will work for you though. Some like their wax softer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debratant Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) I use a blend of 70% 4625 and 30% 4627 for my melts. I have no problem with them melting, but I use a tea light melter, not a bulb warmer. edited to add....totally missed where you wanted to use 4625 for containers by mixing. not done that with it....sorry. Edited December 8, 2015 by debratant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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