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I don't color my soy candles, but it seems that they discolor after a few burns. I think that Lightening Bug was having this same issue with hers turning grey. Mine turn all sorts of colors, pink, brown, purple,etc.... And its not pretty colors either. I know that its probably caused by the FO's because some of my candles will start out an off color due to the color of the FO. I was wondering if I could off set this by adding some white dye chips, if there are any and would that help the color? Or do I just have to deal with it. Thanks for anyone's advice.

The Scented Bean: These are really strong Raspberry Cream-smells like a cream saver Caramlized Pear Spiced Pear Moonglow: Sweet Pea I only use soy though. The scented bean is my favorite. They are super strong.

Kaybee Yes it is very cold and dry here right now. I live in Idaho. After burning the 444 and 449 side by side, they don't look as different after several burns. I have poured about 6 of each, at differing Temps, I am going to let them cure now for about a week to test the throw. So far, I can't tell which one is better. I like them both, but am leaning a little bit towards the 444. I would like to know the difference in composition of the two though. Thanks for posting your results.

Kaybee That is really strange because I had almost the exact opposite happen to me. The 449 tops set up really smooth, and the 444 were a little rough and pitted. And after I burned the 444 a few times, it got a little smoother, but the 449 was always pretty smooth. I poured them both at 140. The 449 leaves more of a residue, though on the sides of the jars.

if you go to the candlecauldron.com there is a really good testing sheet that you can use for yourself. It includes everything that you should be looking for. http://www.candlecauldron.com/, it is on the right hand side. That is what I use.

Dai I have been testing now for over a year and a half. Have tried 8 different waxes, and just got three more "testers" in the mail yesterday. I can't even believe how much money I have put into testing, in the few thousands I know, and have not even sold a single candle, nor do I plan to soon. I am hoping by next summer, I might be ready, and even that is questionable. I have a very loving husband who supports my "hobby", but even he doesn't know the extent of it. The other day he asked "how come we have all of these candles around with little labels with funny numbers on them? Can't you just sell them to people yet?" Ha ha. I too, thought this would be a fun way to make some extra cash at first. Boy was I wrong. If you have some expendable cash, then be ready to test for a long time. I have thought about quitting a few times, and then I see my 4 closests full of candle stuff that I have invested in and just can't do it. Plus it is very fun and VERY addicting-beware and good luck!!!!

HI all I also poured some testers last nite of the 444, 449, and plain 435. I did three different sets, all three plain, with 3% BW, and then mixed 50/50 with the CB-3 wax that I am currently using. I used 9% FO, with no color. All were heated to a T of 175-180, and poured b/w 125 and 140 degrees. I let them sit overnight on my kitchen counter and my house was 65 degrees. There are NO wetspots at all. Microscopic frosting, and smooth tops. The plain 435 top was a little rough, as were the 444/BW, and 449/BW combos. Kaybee is right, I dont think that the BW does anything as far as appearances go for the waxes. The cold throw is really outstanding. I am going to let them sit for a couple of days to cure, and the will burn. I am really impressed and also would be willing to change waxes if the hot throw is substantial. Thanks Jason!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you As soon as I get my kitchen cleaned up, I am going to try the 444 and 449 as well. I have a lot of BW, but it would be nice not to have to worry about adding anything else to this wax. And pouring hotter is nice too. I currently use the calsoy CB3, which is really a nice wax...except for the frosting is terrible. But the throw is outstanding. Might try mixing the 444 with the CB3 and see what happens. Yea for new wax!!!:smiley2:

Hi Geekrunner Thanks again for posting your test results, they are very helpful. I am not sure if you already answered this or not. But what did you think of the hot/cold throw. I know that you probably did not cure them for very long, but were they still OK? Thanks again. angela

wanted to add, that the smaller jars were a lot easier to wick, and I didn't have to double wick them. I only had the htp's at the time, I bet the LX, or Ecos would work though. Good luck.

HI I have tried these jars, and had a little bit of a hard time getting them wicked right. They had a lot of hangup. But I was using Ez soy and htp wicks. Maybe with your wick/wax combo they might work. They are pretty jars though. I covered them with tin foil.

Thank you soo much for all of your test posts, that is very helpful.

Re: the 444, did you get any frosting, wet spots on your jars. THanks for the posts!!!!!!!

Has anyone tried this new wax from peaks? Just curious as to how it works and if anyone likes it. It is paraffin/soy blend. :smiley2: angela

hi holly Try www.glasswear4gellin.com That is where I got mine

HI Joy I let the chestnuts and brown sugar cure for about a week and a half, only becuase I was waiting for some eco wicks to test with. I have had it burning now for about 3 hours, and yes, it is very strong. But a nice strong, not really overpowering. I used 9% FO. HTH

I agree, TSB is the best. Her FO's are really strong and throw awesome in my soy. They smell better and seem stronger to me than JS, and I have had a harder time getting some of those to throw in my CB3. BUt you can't beat JS's sales, they are great. :smiley2:

daniedb Are you using the pryme colors as well? I dont color my candles either, just because of the frosting, but maybe if this stuff really works that well, I will try to color now. Thanks for the post, that is really interesting. I still would like to know what this stuff is made of though. :smiley2:

Holly, Do you have the ability to post pictures? I would really like to see how your candles turned out. Thanks for posting anyways. I am patiently waiting for new wicks, and my order of Frostop that I am goin to try. I, too, wondered what was in this stuff. And you don't think that it will affect the throw at all? That would be great.

Im sold, never heard of it until now. Thanks ladies. I don't color my candles, but would still like to get rid of some of the frosting issues.

Where did you get it from, the frostop? Thanks

I have used it. It is pretty, but the hot throw is not that great IMO. I did not try mixing it with soy, but have read from others that you dont get the crystalizing effect. I was however, going to mix their smooth blend with my CB3, and see how that works out.

Well I am sure that you will get it, just keep trying.

what type of wax or wax combo are you using? This also makes a difference as I had to use different sized wix for different types of wax. Try 2 RRD 29's, and see if that works. They work for me on most FO's but can tend to mushroom after a while.

HI Have either of you guys tried adding BW? It has always worked great for me to get smooth tops, but you can still get a little frosting. I use the CB3 as well, and this weekend I tried mixing cb2/cb3/bw combo. The cold throw is outstanding. I have very little frosting, somewhat only on the sides of the glass. But I am waiting to burn these until I get some new wix to try. Alan from calwax suggested using the CD wicks, or zinc. I thought that zincs are supposed to smoke? So I want to try the CD and Eco wicks. Anyways, since I also poured these with out wicks, they still set up very smooth, I had to heat gun the tops of a couple. But no dipping or cracking. Only slightly in the mason jars, but I think its because I filled them too high. I guess the real test will be how they burn, and what happens after that. Hopefully the hot throw will be as good as the cold. I will let you guys know if I get any airpockets. But as of now, no cracking, and very little frosting. :smiley2: ps, there is about a 1:3 ratio of paraffin in the CB2, but if you mix it with the cb3 is shrinks it to 1:6 so its still pretty minimal.