Actually I'm not a "new" poster, just new under this one because I could not recall my old name since its been two years since I've been here. I gave up making candles for a bit due to illness and took it back up again after said illness. I didn't bash a supplier, I simply said I didn't want to order from that place so no one would suggest it when I asked for it and when you inquired about why, I simply said I didn't want to go into it. Don't be so defensive about why I don't want to order from JS. Most likely I'm going to have to order from JS again. No one did mention my count, which I was thankful of since I see so many posts attacking newbies. But I was informed of the post count before I could access classifieds and that is something I didn't know. So thanks for the help! Scented, your wonderful! Thanks for standing up for me.