I've gotten so much information off of this forum so I'd like to give back and tell my experience with 464 and then C3. This seems to be a topic of much interest. After testing several soy waxes, I settled on 464 and have been working with it for about 6 years. I've been selling for the past 2 years in my little shop (also my workshop) in the center of my town. 464 makes a beautiful candle, no wet spots, decent scent throw. However almost all fragrances will frost after a period of time and the post burn is ugly...but that's soy. I've also always gotten air holes and required a repour (tall jars). I've been able to control my environment (temperature, sunlight etc.) so far and have been selling a beautiful product. This summer I have been asked to wholesale my candles at one of my local "dream" locations! I'll not be able to control the environment and was very concerned about this. I just didn't trust 464 to keep looking nice. I'd been testing C3 from time to time with a little USA (so Thanks, Stella for the recommendation!) and was pleased with the results. So this wholesale stress has made me step up my C3 testing full force and I am so happy with the results. I am getting a nice white candle, no wet spots or frosting, great scent throw, much improved after-burn appearance, and best of all NO holes. Every FO I have tried ( nearly all my Fall scents) has worked beautifully in this wax. I always knew I'd like to switch waxes one day (and was dreading it!) because 464 was good, but not quite what I was hoping for. I'm really liking the C3.