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I got the same thing but after it cures a few days the burnt smell goes away. I almost decided not to use it last year and now it's one of my best sellers. HTH

This has been quite a week for me....first Candlefind and now Legalzoom. Thought I would share if anyone would like to read my story....:smiley2: http://www.legalzoom.com/legal-articles/my-story-brenda-hunter.html

She's actually talking about having me use her oil blends to create the candles so is the formula the finished product or her oil blend? I'm really not thinking it's going to go anywhere and you're right, it does seem like a nightmare. I haven't really even gotten into private labeling and I'm really torn on doing that never mind being a mfg of someone else oils, I have enough challenges mfging candles with the oils I use I think she's looking for someone to mfg a smaller qty then what she would be required to purchase if she went with one of the large candle mfg. Sara Scribbles: Thanks for the compliment on Haddam, it is a nice area to live. We haven't lived here that long but I may know your sister-in-law, it is a small town....

I need some advice regarding Private Labeling...I've read through the posts and understand the basics, however some other questions. This customer wants no label she will affix her own. She's ok with the warning label with my info on the bottom of the candle. The twist is, she's asked about working on a line for her with several custom oils of her own. Which we all know involves research, development, testing and lots of time. I'm not sure I even want to do this but wanted to ask if anyone else has had experience with this time of situation and how you handled. I would think there would need to be a contract involving labor based on a per hour charge, etc. Appreciate the help...

I use C3 and get a good throw from Reindeer Poo, Blueberry Muffin, Apple Jack and Peel, Pumpkin Crunch Cake and Black Cherry Bomb. I'm sure there's lots more but these are the ones I've tested. HTH

Thanks so much for all the nice comments......you can be sure I'm sending that link to everyone I know. I might need to print and frame the page and put it on my workshop wall to look at the next time I have problems with wax, wicks, jars or fo's....:smiley2:

Check out the review Candlefind did on my company....I have to say I'm more than a little proud that all my hard work has panned out... http://candlefind.com/candle-reviews/julia-wooten/ct-river-candles.html The whole process of requesting the review until it was actually posted took several months but I'm so glad I did it. Will definitely refer to when marketing...

Thanks Grama.... Twitter Page is www.twitter.com/ctrivercandles Haven't had time to tweet much.....between Indie, Facebook, Twitter, email and a website, I'm saturated.... Brenda

I think I've now joined everyone fan or group pages, if you care to join my facebook group, here's the link. Thx Brenda CT River Candles :smiley2: http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/group.php?gid=161333306145&ref=mf

Thanks for the OOB review......definitely going to put that one on the "for me" list.... Brenda

Hi Deb: Thanks so much.....just left a voice message for her..... Brenda

Good morning all... I need to ask CS some specifics about their FO's in regard to Phlalate(sp) and essential oils for a customer and I have yet to get a real person on the phone. Time is of the essence and I've left two msgs on their customer service line and sent an email but haven't heard back. Anyone have a contact there they would like to share. They have a company directory but I would need a name to search on.... Thanks Brenda

Not sure about the Hictory but while searching for burnt wood, I came across a scent called Lumberjack from KY that I think would be good if you like the new wood smell....which I absolutely love...I may have to check that one out for myself.

No at this point, the only one I've tried is Crackling Firewood....so I take it the BCN's has the charred wood smell? She's agreed to have me order several samples she can compare so sounds like that might be a good one to add... Thanks Island Girl

Well....I really liked WSP's Crackling Firewood but the customer wasn't loving it. I asked her if she could explain better what she wanted and she picked up a charred piece of wood out of the fireplace and said "this"! So with that said, I'm back to the drawing board. I'm wondering if any of the fire, fireside, campfire, fireplace, fireside inn scents out there have that charred wood smell? Appreciate the feedback...

Ok I have some positive info based on some questions I asked Elevance. I was told that Cargill Mfgs C3 for Elevance, that's why the wording on the boxes has changed since Elevance took over. All of the wax is mfg'd in Charlotte, NC and ships from there to suppliers. So that is good news, although it doesn't really explain the inconsistent lots. They are still researching the lots number I sent them and will let me know when they figure out what's going on. I explained that there are other Candle Makers who have experienced these problems and they have been going on intermittently, in my case, since this past February. They have assured me that they take feedback from their customers very seriously and have forwarded my summary of the inconsistencies onto mgmt.......other than that I don't have more to report other than I have a ton of candles to make this weekend and I'm hoping the next box I open has been blessed by the "non bubbly fairy godmother" Wish me luck! :tiptoe:

Another vote for ICS Aloha Pineapple.....good throw in C3 Soy

The lot number of the box I justed finished is: L9I24 12:09 The box states C3 Container Wax Flake Item #13C2030CT Net wt 50lbs Manufactured for: Bolingbrook, IL The other two boxes that are currently unopened have the lot numbers: L9I24 12:09 and L9I24 12:11 All of the above boxes were purchased at the Jar Store and I pretty much purchase from them exclusively. However I did order 1 box from Fillmore a couple of months ago because the Jar Store was out. That box did not have this problem but neither did several of Jar Store ones previous to it. I did contact the Jar Store today and they have not had any reports from other customers about problems with the wax. They suggested I contact Elevance and let them know what I find out. They also said they weren't sure if there were multiple mfg'ing locations and if there were, they didn't know where there's came from. I have hung in with them because they are local to me and I don't incur shipping which an expense I would love to avoid. I also contacted Elevance Customer Support and gave them my Lot Numbers and they are working with their Technical Support to give me an update on what the problem may be. They said they would get back to me this afternooon. I can't really say that based on the last episode and now this one, that Elevance has not taken each incident seriously. However, I certainly feel they owe an explanation as to what the problem is with their inconsistencies in the wax since they took over. As soon as I hear I will update the board. In the meantime, if anyone is having problems now, please do as Stella has suggested and post Supplier and Lot Numbers so we can compare notes. Thanks

I think that's a periwinkle blue....like hydrangea. I can usually get close with a combo of blue and purple dye chips with more blue and purple. HTH

Hi Stella... Thanks for jumping in....I like Sabrina have been using this wax for years now so I feel I have a good background on how it acts. Note, it's only been since Elevance took over that I've seen any of these inconsistences. I also use USA and stir to temper the wax....my heating and pouring temps are similiar to yours except now I'm heating a bit hotter to deal with the changes. I'm wondering if the problems I and others are seeing have anything to do with where the wax I purchase is being manufactured. From discussing with Elevance I understand there are several mfg plants. I assume different suppliers get there wax shipped from the plant that's closest to them. Since you seem to get consistent C3, a couple of questions: Do you always purchase from the same supplier? How much wax do you go through? From the time I experienced the initial problem until now...I think I have purchased approx 10 50# boxes of wax and the middle 7 were fine. I have no intention of switching waxes but I think it's important for other board members that experience inconsistencies with C3 to update other board members. As I said, I used many boxes that were fine until the most recent. You may find you experience this in a future box and if so, you will understand immediately what this thread has attempted to explain.....

Since I started this thread, I wanted to jump back in and make note that the C3 I just recently ordered is exhibiting some strange behavior again. When I originally started this thread the C3 had soapy bubbles on the top when melted...almost a soapy appearance floating on it. If I poured cooler, 125F-135F the bubbles were throughout the jars especially along the sides. It was annoying. If found the heat gun did help take away some of the bubbles as well as heating the wax higher. This problem seemed corrected in the next 4 - 50# boxes I purchased. I purchase all my wax from the Jar Store. The latest ones not only have alot of bubbles but the consistency is really different. It never really melts to a clear oil like it used too. It's much more emulsified and the bubbles are definitely back. Possibly it's the same problem that Elevance stated at the time of original problem; they said their mixing method was incorporating bubbles and they were correcting it. Anyway, my turkey fryer also crackles and sizzles with these batches which it never did before. Just for the heck of it, I melted some in my presto pot and experienced the same thing. Little bubbles near the heat source and sizzling...Almost like there's water in it....I have found that heating higher 200F helps with the bubbles but even higher temps don't change the consistency. As for how the candles come out, I pour much hotter now, 175F-180F and I don't get any frosting....I do have to do repours because the tops still get sink holes....some of this is probably worse than normal because of my jar being tall. Wet spots still come and go but other than that it seems to behave like C3 as far as burn and throw. I can provide Lot numbers if someone wants them but I'm thinking pouring hotter is the solution as Trapp also confirmed....Sabrina, HTH.

Trapp: You're reading my mind about curing. Did you find you had to let it cure awhile, if so how long? I poured it at 6% and couldn't resist lighting it last night (2nd day after making it - I have no patience!!!) but found it wasn't that strong. I'm thinking I probably need to let it cure but would love to hear feedback on cure timeframe and FO% you used in C3..... Thanks again,

Just received WSP's Crackling Firewood and OOB it smells awesome....put it in wax last night and waiting patiently to test Thanks all for the feedback, I have a feeling this is going to be a perfect fit:yay:

I have a facebook group....called CT River Candles. I'd be happy to join groups in exchange for joining mine.....please pm me if interested. Thanks Brenda

Trapp: Thank you so much for the additional info, it was very helpful....it sounds like wicking won't be too much of an issue....I'll probably end up using an ECO10 or 12. I may have to test the HTP's at some point, the ECO's work well but tend to mushroom quite a bit if not trimmed regular. I appreciate the offer of a sample, but I already went ahead an ordered a 2oz sample from WSP...it was a nice surprise to see they're offering free shipping. If I can get one poured and approved by the customer, I'd love to get that offer when purchasing a larger qty of the scent. To date, I haven't used WSP for fragrances but may need to look into them more.... Have a great weekend!! Brenda