Adam, There are always those that are going to give you crap on this board especially if they already have a preconceived notion about you. The ones that do that feel they are above reproach and I just think of them as pot stirrers as that is their main goal in life when it comes to this board. Just read it and move on, that is the best you can do. If you rise to their ridiculousness then you have in turn given them EXACTLY what they were looking for If you don't believe me about pot stirrers, just take a look at some of the OT posts....proverbial pot stirrers. The bottom line is you are right about HP. As I stated earlier I have seen post after post about HP being used right away (and no, we do NOT know if they were using it for personal use or business use) and I have never read anyone coming down and saying Oh you can't use HP right away, it has to cure. It was said because YOU mentioned it. And nothing that anyone says will cause me to change my opinion on that one. When you ask for critiques on websites you are not just going to get a critique on what you are looking for. There are some that are going to go through every single thing you have done with a fine tooth comb. I can't take that type of criticizm so I never ask for opinions on websites ever:wink2: . I believe in what I do whole heartedly but I also believe that if your labels stink then you won't get any business. Why? Because that is how I feel. I won't buy a product if the label stinks. I look at it in a way that if the person making the product is not at all concerned about the look of the label then they certainly are not concerned about the type of product they are producing. You have to believe in your ENTIRE product and that includes labeling and packaging. This is why I constanly am changing my stupid labels because I just don't feel they are good enough and I do not have the money to hire a professional to create and produce them for me. Also, if I buy a product that is sub-par from one seller, it does not deter me from buying the same product from a different seller. So I guess that is why I can't see how running his business can affect mine. I had a horrible steak dinner the other night at Rafferty's that was way too expensive for what I got but will that put me off to buying a steak dinner at The Outback...I don't think so LOL! I just will never go to Rafferty's again. If I buy a horrible soap from Eugenia (probably never happen in a million years but bear with me:wink2: ) that would not put me off to buying a soap from CareBear. So, I just can't see that concept. Anyways, the main point of this ridiculously long post is you really need to accept the good with the bad when requesting critiques and if you don't like the bad, just read it and move on. If you believe in what you are doing then you are going to run your own business how you see fit. Not one of us here can tell you how to run things. We can only give opinions and we all know what opinions are ! Angi