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Okay, so far you have: 1 wax, 5 scents, 3 dyes, 3 wicks, and untold number of containers. Lots of combinations possible there. Perhaps start with one fo, as they may not all use the same wick for the same container (among other things). If your time is tight, IMO I'd suggest doing a search on that wax (and the various other candle paraphernalia) on this board to get to know it more. You might want to invest in some wick sample packs. And most of all, take detailed notes! Good luck!

What a wonderful idea to update the list, Outlandish! I liked that alphabetization when the list was short. IMO... now that it has grown, even with a little pruning.. listing by alpha'd state (+ Canada!) seems like a nice idea. Would be a quick reference to those "are there any/anymore suppliers in (state)?" questions. :smiley2:

The descriptions in this thread are getting quite amusing! When soy is processed by big food co's, I believe it is deodorized. As a consumer of a great many of soy-based foods, yeah, it does have a distinct smell.

Natty, you might want to check the baggage restrictions about transporting dangerous materials as/in baggage before you have any concrete plans. The flash points of the fo's may be a concern with the airline, or airlines (if you have a code share). If you do decide to fly the stuff back with you, you may also want to get an agreement in writing from the airline(s). You might not be able to pack the stuff in a suitcase, but have to pkg it up into a box with applicable labels (whatever the airline's policy is). Advance notice to them will enable a smooth shipping of those fo's. You may be able to breeze through undetected with fo's in suitcases. Esp. flying biz class. There is more leniency with biz, more with first, frequent fliers, etc.... of course in proportion with how much dough you shell out! I can't stress the in writing part enough. A lot of customers claim a lot of things! Yeah, a previous incarnation was a stint with the airlines.

That would depend on a couple of factors (to begin with). Specific gravity (or a nicely hashed out density fig.) of the EO/FO and size/weight of the drops. Assuming you mean 10 oz. by weight.

Forgot to add... If you vary the tsp. amt by just a bit, it'll quickly change the fo %. Ex. 4 tsp = ~ 0.74(ish) % 4.5 tsp = ~ 0.84(ish) % etc. Well, I'm tired so I hope I got those calc's correct. But the point was to emphasize how troublesome this method would be! :smiley2: (Adding the following to the post so it won't bump.) A specific gravity comparison on a particular supplier's website lists the specific gravity of two different fo's: fo A = 7.35 lbs/gal fo B = 9.41 lbs/gal Calc'd out, this would be some approx. tsp's for 0.5 oz of fo: A = 3.2 tsp B = 2.5 tsp (0.7 tsp difference between the two!) Just adding this to show the difference in vol. for a specific weight.

Capt Dan, here's a good reason why a scale, even a sorta crappy one is better than trying to calculate out weight to volume for candlemaking. BTW, you'll need the specific gravity of the fo. And, every fo has it's own sp. gravity. Also, the same type of fo, (ex. Cucumber Melon) from company A may have a different calculation than company B. This measurement should be in a MSDS. I looked up a few fo's and here, for simplicity, I'll use 9lbs/gal. To find how many teaspoons are in one fluid oz.... 9 lbs/1 gal * 1 gal/768 tsp * 16 oz/1 lb = 144 oz/768 tsp = 0.1875 oz/tsp [Note: Here, we should do a decimal place adjustment, but we'll just leave it for now... ] To calculate 8% fo for 10 oz. candle.... 0.08 * 10 oz. = 0.8 oz. A ballparked tsp. amount.... 0.8 oz/ (0.1875 oz/tsp) = 4.26... tsp. = roughly, just over 4 tsp. In measuring those tsp's in a teaspoon, you'll have to watch for overfilling & surface tension. Or, you'll end up with mo' fo anyhow. Anyway you stack them cookies, it's just not precision measurement! It's past my bedtime, HTH in some way...

Hmmm... did a short search on that to no avail. I found a supplier that sells molds to make them, but they don't have pics yet. Webster's defines alcove as a small recessed section of a room. So.... I'll make a guess and think that it may be those candles that have a small opening/area for replaceable tealights or votives to be put into, so that the original wax creation isn't actually burned. Maybe someone familiar with those things will drop in here to solve this mystery! :smiley2:

J, Wow... sounds like that candle caused a lot of drama! Glad it worked out in your candle's favor.

Till they change their evil ways.... one of these days... they're on my supplier 'caution' list.

Soy being healthier is debatable, and I'm not trying to start that debate here. Customers.... well, some will buy small blops of wrinkle cream without researching the stuff. And pay grand sums of money for it. Go figure. I think that is more of an advertising/marketing issue. IMO, I think most customers just want a great smelling candle that doesn't crap out on them. Just for starters, if you were to google soybean wax, you'd find a great deal of info regarding the history and stuff previously discussed in this thread. My soy wax isn't sticky in room temp. solid form.

If you don't mind... do tell. Part of me files these sort of thing in a 'precaution' area in my brain for things to be aware of. Well, the other part... I'll just say, enjoys a good story. Hope no one got hurt.

Maybe you could slowly sift them into another box or bag.

Thanks for sharing, it's just too amusing in soooo many ways! Maybe you could make this into a "Write a caption for this picture" thread.

Is that amount of fo per wax in a 8 oz. jar? I know that buying 1 oz. fo's at a time can become a PITA when trying to find what does & doesn't work. The following is to further emphasize measurement stuff in previous posts. 6.5oz wax in 8oz.jar (assuming/approx'ing the wax mass in a jar) .5oz fo = 7.7% .75oz fo = 11.5% 6.0oz wax in 8oz.jar (ditto above) .5oz fo = 8.3% .75oz fo = 12.5% fo pp % 1.0oz fo = 6.3% 1.5oz fo = 9.4% The 70/30 is said to have a typical fo% of 8-10%. And, up to 12% capacity. So, it might enjoy mo' fo.

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I think many people here have, just not me. To tide you over till someone else who has used the wax comments.... There is a search button at the top of the screen. If you type in c1 and/or c3, you'll come up with some threads where people have done some comparative tests with these waxes. Also, some performance comments on the waxes. Welcome to CT!

Interesting, indeed. Top, thanks for taking the time, and the link.... much appreciated. Candles, those little monsters, appear so deceptively simple! BTW, the jars look like baby bottles.

I'm not Top,... but it (the test) does look like at best, just some propaganda. Using the guise of a 'scientific' burn test, besides using the same wicks, I found the use of German wicks interesting (if it is the same test). I don't believe Germany grows any cotton for commercial or industrial use. According to Cotton, Inc., the top four world cotton producers (05/06) were China, US, India, and Pakistan. The German wick co. may use US cotton, but when looking at the other three countries, I have doubts. I only bring the wick up b/c the material I'm reading bashes paraffin. And seems to look down on the importation of petroleum waxes. Whether or not they use US cotton, those wicks are still an import. Most likely not something from an American farmer. If this is true, it really does seem more than propaganda. US has wick manufacturers, and I'm not trying to bash German wicks. This is all just at first glance, I reserve the right to be incorrect! BTW, found thread discussing this more & will read later tonight.

Top, thanks for responding... that's pretty much what I figured. I saw the same type & size of wick being used for each. There just seems to be so much misinformation concerning the properties of soy wax(es). At best it's amusing, at worst... well, it's just wrong. The manufacturing of mainstream soy wax is very interesting, but not natural by any stretch of the imagination. The more I read about it, I almost feel sorry for the soybeans! (I'm a vegetarian too.) Of course I do have much more reading to do on it and other waxes & additives. I am trying to go about this candlemaking thing more methodically/scientifically than one would probably think candles should endure.

20mm is just over 3/4". Wow... where did you see those? Tallest I've seen is 14.5mm.

I've been reading about a comparative test involving candles made from a soy wax, a paraffin wax, and a beeswax. IMO, it seems heavily slanted toward the soy. Essentially, I'd like to see some h/oz or g/hr figures from fellow chandlers. I have a suspicion that the figs. are going to be within the same ballpark. But will greatly depend on the candle itself, and skill of the maker. BTW, I'm not posting this so that is can be used as a 'my candle wax is better than your wax' or 'my candle can beat up your candle' thread. Eventually I will buy some paraffins to test, but for now posting seems a more reasonable way to get some answers from people who have a great deal more experience with various paraffin waxes. Any input from beeswax chandlers (or other waxes) would be appreciated as well. To start with, I currently have a 100% soy votive burning (that I made). The following are approximations for simplicity. It has a good hot throw, MP 1/4" deep, flame 5/8". So far, it has a 10 h/oz or 2.8 g/h. Comparing with the A&P wick guidelines for the votive, it seems to be doing alright, I suppose. Without pulling out the experiment folder, this seems to be close to what I've been attaining before. I realize that this is only one spec. in any particular candle's profile. And, there are advantages/disadvantages to any wax or candle. I'm just curious to see this particular spec. expanded upon here. What are some comparative same or other wax figs. for a votive (or other candle)? TIA for any help & info.

Well, I thought I'd pay a visit... I called and the recording said that they're temporarily closed. They're moving to Edmond. Edmond is N. of OK-city. Here in Norman, were S. of OK-city. Hmmm.... moving to where the money is.... But they can't escape me! I'll go up there for my favorite chinese place, and still scope them out! :tiptoe:

Half inch of wax at bottom, here too. That seems to be a feasible amount for heat dissipation. Unless otherwise instructed, and/or designed to leave the wax at the bottom of the jar, I'd think that most customers would be quite negligent to this safety precaution. A candle which sucks up all the jar's wax would probably be viewed as most economical (increased hours per jar) to them. My burning jars like to sit on a nice thick marble coaster. Maybe a similar arrangement will help prevent some matching burn marks.

Some customers may think of it as a bonus.