e, we could go back and forth over this, but like I said, you have to consider the whole writing not take a fragment of it and form an opinion on what it is saying. It's chemistry and you can't take a fraction of what it is saying and consider it the whole meaning. I posted the whole writing as not to take pieces of it out of context. As far as rebatching, I guess I missed where the original poster mentioned that. Actually, I've missed with whatever you are debating when you took a fragment of a written piece of research and changed the meaning of it or tried to perceive it as saying something it is not. You can pick away with what I posted from that site all you want. I was trying to help the original poster understand a little bit more about saponification. I think all you've done now, is confuse her more. Back to the original person's post. Yes you can add butters and not break down many of their attributes if added after trace. Making soap is like an art with chemical charateristics. To get the most out of the different oils and butters you use, you would need to understand what happens at each stage of soap making. It's a learning process that obviously each person understands differently and at different levels.