You can get the 4641 from Aztec that's where mine came from, you have to call and order it though since its not listed on the site. LOL Its was 8 I think for a 5 pound bag of course 10 pounds was a better deal but I can't recall the price. Its in one of my wax totes I have yet to try it. Along with clarus 3020, 3022, coconut wax, swans coconut slab, 4794, various soys which I probably won't ever try the soys! That's what I started with 464 and the candles were so ugly! Lol I love my 4627! 4633 I'm just not getting the same CT so I'm not liking it