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Afewthingz, how bad was the rusting on the vanilla?

Thats good to know. I got my samples in and poured one cinn spice and now i will try vanilla and let it sit for a bit. I dont really do a lot of bakery.

I checked sks but candlewic had better pricing when factoring in shipping. I will double check though.

I use 444 wax with 6% fo load. I am courting a wholesale account which wants 16 oz tins (holding 12 oz wax). I am planning on purchasing from candlewic since cs no longer carries 16 oz size. The initial order for their test market is 900. For the fall/winter. I am concerned about using tins because of the rust issues, esp. with vanilla etc. I used tins for the holidays once (from cs) and I turned them over quickly (they sold well), so I never saw rust. I typically only use glass. Please let me know your thoughts/experience. What about spray lacquer on the inside of the tin? Mod podge looks annoying, messy etc. and time consuming. I haven't used candlewic tins. I have ordered some samples. Customer is purchasing some testers. I am scared that if they order in the summer for 900, that one day a couple of months down the road, they'll ring me up and tell me that it is a rusty mess. Please advise. Should I just push them to the 8 oz glass candle? The 16 oz tin has better throw because of the nearly 4 inch meltpool. Vs. The 8 oz glass jar is more like 2.5. I intend to make some cinnamon or vanilla early next week and let it sit around for a few weeks too. I'm really stressing about this because I couldn't afford to mess this up so to speak. Thanks, J

It still seems scammy. Ladies' name is Tara Richard and email is a gmail with tarastoresltd in it. Also she ne er provided a store name or website since they were just setting up and "getting ready to establish a worldwide presence". Is this the same name that you got ubure?

People suck.

Yes..I ended up getti g a freight quote with fedex and with pallet it would be 5k. With 400 candles and vat tax you are looking at close to 10k. I emailed her back and told her the numbers. Suggested that she locate someone in EU so she can get better shipping and tax break. I did an address google maps search like candy suggested and it looks mixed residential and business. What is weird is five min later she begs me to use her shipper and gave me their email to get a quote. I emailed them for the hell of it but it didn't look like a proper email for a business like an international shipping company. What could these scam motives possibly be? That I ship out thousands of dollars of product and have them cancel payme t and report everything damaged? Also it was weird that she didn't ask me about the waxes etc. Plus she kept saying god bless and amen at the end of her emails. I grew up overseas in Europe and the only time they say amen is after a prayer.

Got an inquiry out of a store out of Belgium. They wanted a quote for 400 candles. I asked them which collection, referring to my website. They said "both" instead of specifying the collection. It was like they didn't take the time to really look. Inquiry seemed a little vague so I am skeptical and don't want to spend too much time quoting this shipment. I asked for a mailing/shipping address and website so I can give them a shipping quote. They gave me a Brussel's address and said that they are just getting their store up and running and have no website. The Brussel's address seemed legit. I was also suspicious because the first inquiry came in at 19:00 EST which is after midnight in Belgium. That is not to say I haven't been on the computer at midnight, But it still seemed weird. They also wanted to know if I would take credit card vs. paypal. I haven't answered that part yet. But if I said cc, how would I "take" it? I take credits with my square app all the time, so I guess I would just get the # from them? I did some rough shipping pricing via Fedex and it came out to a ridiculous amount, the skid would be like $15,000 to ship. I always use Fedex to ship domestically. I looked at USPS and their international boxes seem really small. Plus I heard USPS, while reliable, is slow. For those of you who ship international, please suggest the best way. These are large candles and each box would be double boxed with 24 candles and weigh 40 pounds. These are rough numbers. I would have multiple boxes that would go via pallet/skid. Thank-you.

Well I have to admit that it is unfortunate we never heard about wicked wine's organic soy wax supplier. That being said, I did go on their website link this afternoon and noticed that all references to "organic" have been removed and replaced with "natural". So I guess that answers my question. References to organic timber wicks have also been removed.

I am curious to what the surf guy will say...

I use a 16 oz jar similar to that from candlescience. That is a great price. Where are they out of? Since it is a jar made for candles IMO it should be fine. I double wick bc of the 4" diameter and have my tabs almost touching. The neck of mine therefore do not get overly hot. Plus with the double wick I wick down a little.

The don't ask don't tell disturbed me though. I think the product manager was more blunt with me because I was talking to him oj phone vs. voicemail.

Kandlekrazy, thanks for the info. I just went on website and found it. It is wax #44 described as an organic veggie wax. I phoned them and they said that it is not really organic. But a blend of soy wax, palm, coconut. It is blended overseas and the formula changes. A small component of the wax was originally organic. But the majority of wax isn't. They acknowledged the deceptive organic wording on their website and said that every now and again they get a complaint and change their wording. They said a lot of companies buying their wax do the don't ask don't tell thing. They said they could never certify it as organic obviously. But they said that certain multinational food companies requests certified organic and if they can't get it they do the don't ask don't tell. I think I'll stick with gb 444.

I agree Old Glory. But wicked wine advertises 100% organic. So it seems like well...I hope we hear back from wickedwine soon. I am still smarting from the loss of that account. But I want to be as honest as possible with my customers. Maybe wicked wine is still digging out of the snow with that bad storm.

Update: I contacted two surf shops in my area and they use a liquified wax. They also sold tiny wax tubs ( like 8 oz) which looked like turtle car wax. They seemed a little confused about candle application. These surf shops said that their wax is paraffin and they had no clue about the organic status. New England surfers maybe are different. Either way I am still on the hunt for the organic soy wax.