JBaxley Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 I would like to add room sprays as part of my business. I have read a lot of threads on here about them. My concern is the tile floors getting oily. I sell to a lot of retirement centers and I just can't sell them something that they could slip and fall. Plus if I tell them not to spray in the bathrooms or in a room that has tile because it could get greasy I don't think they will want to buy the product at all.Has anybody out there found a way to make room sprays that don't have any oily residue? If so would you please share your recipe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharon in KY Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 I think the ones that are oily are Cyclo based. I have made with 1/2 water and 1/2 91% Alcohol, FO emulsifiers or Polysorbates and FO. I never noticed an oily spray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBaxley Posted September 17, 2009 Author Share Posted September 17, 2009 OK I'm really new at this. I looked up 91% alcohol and that is Isopropyl alcohol that you can buy at drugstores correct?First I would have to buy a FO Modifier. I found one at WSP and it says 4 parts modifier to 1 part FO. I want to make an 8oz bottle so help me out please. How much water, how much alcohol and how much FO with modifier should I use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcrafter Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 If you have a Costco nearby, you can get Iso alcohol really cheap there. I have never noticed floors getting oily from using my sprays. I use alcohol and EOs. That's it. But it's great that you are concerned for those living in the centers. That's nice of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBaxley Posted September 17, 2009 Author Share Posted September 17, 2009 So you just use alcohol and FO...are you using oil based oils, I have read they have water based FO don't know where to get them however. What is your recipe for an 8oz bottle? How much alcohol to how much FO? I'm assuming that these won't get moldy or yucky because of the alcohol correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcrafter Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 I don't use FOs ever. I use EOs. They do not mold or turn yucky. Some EOs stay emulsified in the alcohol, some separate and the bottle must be shaken before each use. The citrus EOs tend to separate. The ratio is up to you...as far as how strongly scented you wish your sprays to be. I can not advise you on using FOs because I do not use them and have no experience with their behaviors in alcohol or water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandleMama6 Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 I thought that cyclo dissipated so there was no oily residue? I have also thought about doing these but just didn't know so never tried.I would think that the FO's would have to be skin safe though since they can come in contact with your skin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharon in KY Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Walgreens has 91% Alcohol on sale here, this week 3 for $2. For 8 oz bottle I use approximately .5 - .8 oz Fo and the same amount of modifier/emulsifier, shake well. Then add equal parts water and Alcohol, shake and test to see if it is strong enough for you. You can always try the straight Alcohol, it would dry faster. Or buy it already mixed, lots of suppliers have it and if you can pick up that would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryTartMama Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 i use the stuff from WSP and i dont have a problem with floors getting oily. I have wood floors. I spray 1-2 sprays per room and with that, its strong. I think if they spray high in the air it should be fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBaxley Posted September 18, 2009 Author Share Posted September 18, 2009 On other threads about this the people with hard wood floors never really had a problem. It is the ones with the tile floors in the bathroom that stated this could be oily or greasy and could make people slip. Have you used this WSP base in a bathroom tile area? If so have you had any problems with it there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryTartMama Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 i have linolium in the bathrooms and kitchen and ceramic tile in the entry way. I havent had a problem with it being slippery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justrightcandles Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 so let me get this straight, all you have to do is buy the base add a little fo and bottle it and that makes the room sprays? I have been meaning to add more "wickless" scenting options to my line and thought about sprays but have never gotten around to it. I think I will get on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen M Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Maybe because of the humidity it makes it more slippery on a tile floor.I use cyclo and I don't have any problems on wood or any other floor type. I just spray 2-3 squirts up into the room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valerie6 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Hi,I buy a base from candlemakers store and fo and have never had any problems.Valerie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimBeginnings Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 I made a few batches of room spray with the cyclomethicone, It does leave little oil speckles on my countertop and floors. I am not making anymore room spray with the cyclomethicone, I am looking for other recipes. It is a nice product, but I don't like coating my things with an oily residue. Its doesn't dissipate fast enough for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimBeginnings Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 (edited) Is WSP wholesale supply plus? The room spray base is about 7.50 per .15 gal? There directions only add FO. Am I mixed up as to your recipe? I think you wrote that you use FO and modifier/emulsifier and then add equal parts water/alcohol. Edited October 3, 2009 by PrimBeginnings found it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroMetroChic Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 I am curious too how to make it with the fragrance modifier , I'm not used to using a modifer, which one do you use. I know there is more than one polysorbate I think. Would love an alcohol fo modifier recipe. I'm thinking of adding them also, seems easy enough to put in aluminum spray bottles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitchenfairy Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Sorry to bump this up, but I made the same recipe Sharon mentioned, but was wondering if you can actually sell that to other people? And if you did, would you need to add a preservative? By the way, I really like your formulation Sharon, thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharon in KY Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 I am curious too how to make it with the fragrance modifier , I'm not used to using a modifer, which one do you use. I know there is more than one polysorbate I think. Would love an alcohol fo modifier recipe. I'm thinking of adding them also, seems easy enough to put in aluminum spray bottles.modifier/emulsifier/polysorbate, either should do the trick. Making the FO mix with the water and alcohol. I have used the modifier from Jody's, WSP [Wholesale Supply Plus] and a few others plus used polysorbate for years.I don't have a recipe per-say. For a room spray not body spray. About 1/2 oz of FO to 1/2 oz modifier shake well, fill remainder of bottle (8oz) with equal parts distilled water and alcohol. I would say you do not need a preservative using distilled water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitchenfairy Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdesousa5 Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 Anything with water even distilled will need to have a preservative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimBeginnings Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 I am very new to this, but would the alcohol act as the preservative? If not what would be considered a preservative? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharon in KY Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 (edited) Anything with water even distilled will need to have a preservative.I'm not sure that's right. There is no preservative in Distilled water and it is sold.If you know that to be true then what kind and how much per 8 oz of finished room spray? Edited December 28, 2009 by Sharon in KY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdesousa5 Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Once you open water even Sterile water it comes in contact with all airborne germs . It is also a breeding ground for germs . When you drink water you are able to fight off many germs naturally , but if it does become over contaminated than you could get sick.That being said you'd want to use a preservative that matches what you are making, Germaben II would work in a high water formula at a rate of 0.3% - 1%. You can research many different perservatives at places like Lotion Crafters & Snow Drift Farms.HTHCarol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildwings Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 I should have payed more attention in Chemistry Great tips ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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