Guest EMercier Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 What is the difference between soy and regular paraffin wax?? I've heard different things and have been asked if I did soy. I've done only paraffin and it works fine for me. No major complaints except people who want to hear themselves complain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottopus Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 This is such a broad question. I'll answer it in very general terms:Soy is:Renewable sustainable resources requiring plant growthLonger and cooler burning than pariffinWhen properly wicked, cleaner burning without soot buildup (soy soot is grey)Made in the USA with domestically grown crops Clean up with soap and hot water eliminating solventsPariffin is:A petroleum productEven when properly wick, burning pariffin will give off black soot that will eventually build upMass majority of petroleum is imported into this countrySince pariffin is oil based, it need oil solvents to clean upVery stable inert waxThese are some of the big ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrie Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 I use a wax that is 98% soy, because I got fed up with the black soot and smoke that paraffin gave me. Some people never get soot or smoke with par., but I always did. I got awesome throws with it, but I gave up and decided to move on. I have found that the major difference between soy and par, for me, is that the soy burns so much cleaner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henryk Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 So far I've only used 1343 pillar wax - no smoke or soot at all (I was waiting for it but it never happened) - even on 14 hour power burns. Can I ask, the soot you were getting with paraffin - was it in containers or pillars? And if I may ask, what wax were you using. (I'm new at paraffin so just trying to gather some info).Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinInOR Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 I use both a straight paraffin (1343) and a paraffin/soy blend..Other differences:Paraffins have a larger range of surface looks you can get - shiny, matte, mottled, rustic. Paraffin changes it's look more with the use of different additives. Although palm waxes are being developed that also have different surfaces - granite, feathered, crystal..... Don't think you'd ever get shiny out of soy though.Soy/naturals are more "brittle" waxes - they don't flex as much. You can't hug them in a pillar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottopus Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 When I said:Even when properly wick, burning pariffin will give off black soot that will eventually build up When pariffin burns, it produces CO2, H2O, Heat, Light, and some degree of incomplete combustion (soot). Pariffin soot is black macro-particle carbon chains. Soy soot is tan/grey micro-particle carbon chains.A properly wick pariffin or soy candle will produce small amounts of soot. With pariffin, these small amounts of macro-particle soot will collect somewhere (on the jar, wall, lampshade, table, ect.) and you'll be able to see it since it black. With the soy, you can't really see it since it's grey/tan color and it micro-particle doesn't make it as "sticky". Anyone who says soy or even a pariffin candle don't give off any soot doesn't know the facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinInOR Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 Yup, where there's flame, there's soot.You brought up something interesting though that I've never thought of - particle size of soot. Whether it's light or dark color doesn't matter to me - light color soot that I can't see isn't any healthier than dark color soot that I *can* see.I've seen references to paraffin soot particle size as being anywhere from .06 - .1 micron. You mentioned soy was a micro size. Any idea of how small? I couldn't find any tech references.In any case, I've read that anything less than 1 micron can get stuck in the lungs. To my way of thinking, smaller particles could be more of a danger - they stay in the air longer and are thus more easily taken into the lungs.I'll have to go google, I like collecting pieces of info like this for some web pages I've got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrie Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 So far I've only used 1343 pillar wax - no smoke or soot at all (I was waiting for it but it never happened) - even on 14 hour power burns. Can I ask, the soot you were getting with paraffin - was it in containers or pillars? And if I may ask, what wax were you using. (I'm new at paraffin so just trying to gather some info).Thanks.Sorry, I should have been clearer. I was talking about paraffin container waxes. I've tried a bajillion of them. J-50, J-223, IGI 4786, CW129, Comfort Blend, IGI 1945/4630, and a few others. I ALWAYS got soot, and with most of them I got horrible smoking while burning, even with the wick trimmed. The smoking was the worst with the 1945/4630. The soot/smoke occured in all of these waxes when I used 3% AND 6% FO. When I said soy is cleaner burning for me, what I meant was that the jars are cleaner. Soy may put off "white" soot, but I can't see it. I don't like black soot showing up on my containers. I won't sell them that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mona Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 http://www.igiwax.com/wax_faq.shtml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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