redjello2000 Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 Hi!I am a newbie to this board, but not to candlemaking. I had the misfortune of having my soy wax discontinued by the Astorlite company. So, now I am back to the drawing board of trying new waxes to decide what I am going to switch to! I was wondering if anyone had tried the Cargill C-3 wax and what did you think about it. Or do you have any suggestions. Any input would be greatly appreciated! TIA,Beverly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 That's a really nice wax, but I had sinkhole issues with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 Hi, I have used the C-3 quite a bit. I'm now looking at some other waxes also. It does get sink holes around the wick even when poured slowly and at a cooler temp. They can be fixed with a heat gun but then you have to deal with frosting. Some times it takes a bit of work to make the tops look nice. It's also unpredictable. Some times it will snow flake like crazy on the sides and some times it won't. Even with the same FO's and dye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire and Ice Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 I've used C-3 for a year and like it fine. But then I always do two pours instead of one. It has to cure for at least five days but the scent throw is great. My customers don't have problems with frosting. I like it! Actually, I use it as the core of my soy wax since I also add two other waxes to it to expediate the curing process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaybee23 Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 Soy is a very unpredictable wax. Because shipping costs are so high, I would try what you can get closest to you and try to make it work for you. I buy mine from KY and pay the shipping, just because I tested several and that is what worked the best for me. Everyone has a wax that works the best for them. If you try the C3 and don't like it, there are many others out there to try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanna Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 I cured the sinkhole problem with the c3 by not pouring up to the neck but stopping a little below it. When I used hex jars and poured up to the neck I got sink holes like crazy. Now when I do use the c3 I use wide neck apothecary jars and pour below the neck. Even with 16 oz jars there was no pitting. Try it...it may work for you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faerydust Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 i do get sink holes no matter what temp i pour! i do get frosting but you know what frosting doesn't bother me at all! i know it does alot of people but i really don't care..lolmy major complaint is the seeping (i only use 1oz per lb). but another wonderful person on this board gave me a great idea and that idea is working for the most part! it does have a great throw after a bit of curing time and i don't find it difficult to wick either! hth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandyanne Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 I agree with Steve- nice smooth tops except for the sink holes. Correcting the sink holes with a heat gun creates major frosting- got tired of trying to correct these things every time I poured so now I am using what I have left for non colored candles only! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 I do like the C3, and like the others had some sinkhole issues. I just poke a couple relief holes when it's setting up and do a topping pour. I feel better poking the relief holes anyway, that way I know for sure there are no airpockets down inside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Bug Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 Hi. I'm trying different waxes and two days ago poured an 8 oz. square mason with the Cargill. It turned out the nicest of four different soy waxes. No wet spots, no frosting, no holes. I had almost decided to order it as my main wax but maybe need to test more and see about the issues brought up in this thread. My question is what % FO do you use? I thought the directions said about 6%, and I am used to using more than that. Do you get a good throw at that amount? This forum saves so much needless purchasing! Beth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire and Ice Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 I use 8-10% and cure for a week. Awesome result!I know Cargils says this is a one pour wax but with the larger jars, I do two pours and it solves the vent hole issue. I too never minded the frosting. But I still wish Cargils had left the C-2 on the market for those thousands of us who loved it! It was the best soy wax they ever made! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjello2000 Posted July 28, 2005 Author Share Posted July 28, 2005 Thanks everyone for your input. I appreciate it. I think that I will give the C-3 a try. Every wax that I have ever used has had from time to time a frosting issue (nothing major). So I don't think too much about a little frosting. Thanks again! Beverly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 Hi. I'm trying different waxes and two days ago poured an 8 oz. square mason with the Cargill. It turned out the nicest of four different soy waxes. No wet spots, no frosting, no holes. I had almost decided to order it as my main wax but maybe need to test more and see about the issues brought up in this thread. My question is what % FO do you use? I thought the directions said about 6%, and I am used to using more than that. Do you get a good throw at that amount? This forum saves so much needless purchasing! BethYou'll run up against that some FO's work better in veggie wax than others do.I have some scents I do only use about 6% with the C-3, but a lot of others I use 8 and even 9 percent, which you can't always get away with because of seeping problems. Even some high quality scents just won't work right in veggie if they were originally formulated for paraffin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire and Ice Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 Ya know, I've heard that from hundreds of people all over and to be honest, I've never found a scent that won't work in soy wax. I've tested and tried over 100 of them and they all threw just fine. But my list of scents is constantly changing so I test a great many scents. Haven't had one that won't work yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgirl Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 I just bought some of this today to try from a local supplier. Is this a 100% soy product like GF 415 or is it a soy blend?? The owner of the supply company says it is 100% soy. Then when I looked it up one site said it was a veggie/soy blend... Can anyone clear this up for me.. TIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire and Ice Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 It's 100% soy. That's what I read and what my supplier was told when he switched to C-3. He was carrying the C-2 abnd they discontinued it:mad: C2 was my all time fav wax and I've been through a dozen or so in testing before C2. I miss it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgirl Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Thanks fire and ice... I just made a candle and it set up very nicely and I poured it at 170!! Cold smell is great... Hope the hot throw is just as good.. The supplier that I bought it from said it was a more predictable soy wax.. We will see!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire and Ice Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 Minium cure time 5 days but a week is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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