pwillo2 Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 I have searched the forum and didn't really find the answer I was looking for. I am testing with 464 and I would like for it to be a little harder. Is there anything I can add that will help me acheive this? By adding something I know that will affect the wicking and burn time but will it change the ST?TIA for your answers. I have not played with any additives but CO so I am clueless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logcabinmomma Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 I don't add anything to my 464, but I thought I'd caution you that this wax IS harder in cooler weather. My summer/winter burns are very different. You really need to be able to test with the weather conditions you plan to be using/selling in.-Kristi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwillo2 Posted June 6, 2008 Author Share Posted June 6, 2008 Thanks for that tip. I only started testing this wax in late Feb. which is like spring already in MS so that is good to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candybee Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 You can add beeswax to make it harder. Start out with 3%. I have never used more than 5% thou. I have heard from others that tried that it started to crack the top of their candle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circle Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Strange, but true, I use EO's at around 5% and find that my wax is harder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwillo2 Posted June 7, 2008 Author Share Posted June 7, 2008 You can add beeswax to make it harder. Start out with 3%. I have never used more than 5% thou. I have heard from others that tried that it started to crack the top of their candle.Thanks... I am not good with the math..LOL Exactly how do I calaulate that or how much per pound is it? Strange, but true, I use EO's at around 5% and find that my wax is harderReally? Never heard of that... How is the wicking between the FO and the EO? Where do you buy the EO's at?I want to try anything I can to acheive the goal that I have in mind. HAHA, this could take years..... But I am having fun... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circle Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 I find the wicking of both fairly similar, EO's and FO's but each EO can vary slightly so a lot of testing is needed. I get my EO from Australia and New Zealand. The heavier oils like vanilla are the ones that make the surface harder and appear to have a look of soy being mixed with paraffin. These oils need wicking up also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tootie04 Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 Thanks... I am not good with the math..LOL Exactly how do I calaulate that or how much per pound is it? Really? Never heard of that... How is the wicking between the FO and the EO? Where do you buy the EO's at?I want to try anything I can to acheive the goal that I have in mind. HAHA, this could take years..... But I am having fun...Here is how I do the math...16oz X .03 = .48 so about 1/2 oz is 3%tootie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tootie04 Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 I do believe that beeswax is NOT recommended in the 464.tootie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwillo2 Posted June 7, 2008 Author Share Posted June 7, 2008 Thanks tootie...I was wondering if the additive percentage was calculated the same as FO. Maybe I will just keep playing with the straight 464. I am going over to your test thread to read about the 6036:rolleyes2 ...LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tootie04 Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 The 6036 is the easiest wax I have played with yet....I really like it. I like it enough to justify shipping from CS to me!! tootie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geekrunner Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 The 464 is actually the GB 402 (a very soft low MP soy) that has had 2% Universal Soy Additive blended into it. Poured at the right temp it does set up with smooth tops but it still is pretty soft, the USA raises the MP a bit, but not much more than 120 degrees. I have tried using 3% beeswax in 402 and it hardens it, but the hot throw is sacrificed somewhat. Now 415 with 3% BW poured at 100-105 deg was pretty popular a couple of years ago.geek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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