Important- Eco CBA lables!!!

[Gretchen]

Howdy! I noticed today as I was working that some of my cases of the CBA said 'new & Improved' and some did not. I just got a shipment last week of 5 cases and thought I had used up my old stuff before I opened the new. So I pondered on that for a few minutes, checked my invoice, thinking about when I had poured what. Finally decided to call the supplier to ask if I could feel confident that the lables were accurate, new verses old. She said she would hope so, but suggested I test each box! I didn't like that answer so I called Nature's Gift (the manufacturer). There's a batch # on every box, although a little tough to read. She said they had reports of the old lable on the new stuff!

Fair warning here guys; call them and check the batch #'s on your cases to be sure!

I also told them that about adding the 2% steric and the great results I was having. (with the steric, these are the nicest burning, and the longest burning candles I have ever seen; and I mean EVER!) They said they had heard that was working; so I said, "guess that means it's a pretty safe bet you'll be messing with this formula too to try to eliminate the need for steric?"; she said, "I would think so". At least that's a heads up! Of course we'll probably be the last ones told!

Henry, sure you don't want to send them your resume'?

Gretchen

[Jeana]

I hope they can improve the scent throw better in the new new one too. I really struggle with this. And I have heard others say the same. I know this has been covered extensively in other threads, but I forgot if the stearic helps with scent throw as well as the pits and cracks. Do you think it does?

[Gretchen]

From what I've poured so far, I'm happy with the scent throw, but I wasn't unhappy with the original CBA's throw. The cold wasn't as strong, but after a proper cure it was fine, IMO. I was happy with the first CBA. This stuff gets wet spots too. The one thing that I have to say about this new stuff is, with the addition of the steric, no kidding, these puppies burn FOREVER! And beautifully! I ahve a tumbler here, same wick as I used with the first CBA, 10 oz of wax, 10z. pp of Fo, that used to burn 45+ hours. This new stuff with the steric, well I don't know. So far, two burns, for a total of about 16 hrs. and it's only down 9/16". I'd like to hear opinions on that. I've never had a candle burn so slow and so perfectly; well should I say, so far, knock on wood! Today it went for 11 hours! We'll see.

Gretchen

Oh- the throw was great and this one was just poured last thursday, but the steric was added yesterday. Don't ask; wasn't fun, but turned out great

[topofmurrayhill]

Have you folks noticed the sweating? I haven't been working with this wax for long, but the first couple of times with 6% FO the whole top got covered with little droplets when the candle was lit.

[mystical_angel1219]

Not a C wax fan myself. :rolleyes2

Top, what is the maximum FO load capacity on this wax?

It sounds like perhaps your FO isn't incorporated fully into your wax.

That definitely could be the culprit.

[topofmurrayhill]

Well that's a good thought Mystical but I don't think the problem is procedural. I made the FO addition around 170 or 175 and poured around 140, with considerable time for stirring while the wax cooled.

I think the fragrance retention of this wax is estimated at 6% so perhaps I was pushing the limit. However, HenryK once suggested that it might have nothing to do with FO but just the nature of frost resistant all-soy waxes. There's a photo of the phenomenon in this thread (different wax but identical appearance):

http://www.candletech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=892

Scroll down to the heart-shaped candle.

[mystical_angel1219]

Wow, thats wild and seems like it could be very perplexing.

Considering that candle in the pic has no FO. I have never seen a soy candle do that before while burning. I have had jars "sweat" when its blasted hot here, but I usually just move them in cooler place then blast them with the heatgun for appearance sake. My theory now would be its either a snafu that comes with the frost resistant wax or the FO load was to the limit. Or a combo of both.

Sorry I can't be of more help to you.

[Henryk]

That wax was Astorlite S1 if anyone was curious.

[mystical_angel1219]

That wax was Astorlite S1 if anyone was curious.

Thank you, Henryk. :smiley2:

[topofmurrayhill]

That wax was Astorlite S1 if anyone was curious.

Are you seeing this again with the new CBA?

[Henryk]

More so with the old than the new. Just a little with the new, when temps were hotter. I'm not seeing it all now after the stearic addition. So whether its the temps or the stearic I'm not sure - its probably both, but I'm thinking that bit of stearic is helping tremendously with that factor.