chrisasst Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 (edited) Ok, maybe I need to start again or something. I have been trying a cd14 in my mason jars. ( rose, cotton candy, warm apple pie.) and it is not reaching a full melt pool after 6 hours. ( two different burns) I am getting an ok HT but.. I thought it would catch up but it is not. Should I try a cd 16? Does that not seem big?I am loosing my mind here Edited August 17, 2013 by chrisasst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorelei Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 I typically use 10 maximum 12 in this jar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChandlerWicks Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 The best way I've found to test, is to make a bunch of jars all the same. Then try a series of wicks all the way to the last burn. Starting with CD-10 thru CD-18, so that's 5 jars, burn all at the same time to the very end, record everything. You'll waste less wax, FO, wicks, hairpulling, etc. I found I like CDs better then CDNs with this method. You'll learn so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjdaines Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Larger wicks are not always the answer when trying to get a FMP. Larger wicks consume more wax (ROC). Test using the advice above, many jars and many wicks. Also, remember that the jar will heat more or less based on it's shape and if it traps heat (narrow neck) and that the second half of the burn is hotter than the first. Catching up may not happen 'til then, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nursenancy Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 What wax are you using? I use 444 and I need a 16 in that size jar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisasst Posted August 17, 2013 Author Share Posted August 17, 2013 I thought I put my wax in there, apparently I didn't...I am using 415.. isn't 415 and 444 similar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonshine Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 CD14 is smaller than a 12 when you look at the charts- I would try the 12I typically also mainly use 10 and 12 in that jar with 415 but lately alot of my scents are requiring a CDN16 which burns cooler than a CD16- not sure why this is going on- but soy can be very different case to caseLike Chandlerwicks said make a few at a time with the different wicks and see which does better- then test again the winners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisasst Posted August 17, 2013 Author Share Posted August 17, 2013 (edited) CD14 is smaller than a 12 when you look at the charts- I would try the 12I typically also mainly use 10 and 12 in that jar with 415 but lately alot of my scents are requiring a CDN16 which burns cooler than a CD16- not sure why this is going on- but soy can be very different case to caseLike Chandlerwicks said make a few at a time with the different wicks and see which does better- then test again the winnersWhere do I find said chart about the wicks?ok, I found a chart on wicks unlimited, according to that the cd 14 is bigger than the cd 12....unless I am reading the chart wrong. Edited August 17, 2013 by chrisasst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonshine Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 http://www.craftserver.com/forums/showthread.php?103183-Searching-for-wick-hotter-than-CD10-but-not-as-hot-as-CD12-in-415-C3&highlight=CDN14I swear that chart changed- read this old thread and I have always found the 14 to burn cooler than the 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nursenancy Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 I never tried 415. A 14 is definitely bigger than a 12. You might try the 14 all the way to the end, especially if you're getting decent throw and a good size flame. I find they catch up quite a bit towards the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChandlerWicks Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 It did MS! The chart from WU 10/2011 reads CD-12 has a higher ROC & Flame Height then CD-14 They've fixed it since then.http://www.craftserver.com/forums/showthread.php?103183-Searching-for-wick-hotter-than-CD10-but-not-as-hot-as-CD12-in-415-C3&highlight=CDN14I swear that chart changed- read this old thread and I have always found the 14 to burn cooler than the 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonshine Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Isn't that crazy?? In my wax the 14 is cooler than the 12 ...that's my story and in sticking to it! Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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