powderblueboutique Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Hi all! I have been experimenting with liquid soap...just a few of thought up recipes (crock pot). the first recipe i did not add cocoa butter. second recipe I did. Let me rewind. The first recipe I made entirely liquid castile. Second was a mix of rice bran coconut, olive oil and castor. third was the same previous but added cocoa butter.I have noticed some separating. But not what you and I would usually think of. The liquid still remains "soap", but there is an apparent large "glob". It isn't hard, but soft, and moves fluid. I have noticed this with all of the batches, and shook the container: all was well. However, this recipe needs quite a bit more "help".Is this normal for Liquid soap (either way having to redistribute after time)? I have recipe calculated, tongue tested, yadayada Feels great on the skin as well.Any advice from liquid soap makers greatly appreciated, Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 What was your SF%. Did you add fragrance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderblueboutique Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 SF: 5%Fragrance: 0I thought I should sf less, but a bit of a wuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Most KOH is only about 92% or so 'pure' to begin with, so you just have more SF and unsaponifiables in the bottle. Should only be aesthetic if your formula was calculated accurately. If you heat it again, some of that 'blob' may rise as scum that you can skim. I wouldn't worry about it if it feels nice to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderblueboutique Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 That makes sense. However, now I know I can sf much much lower next time! Thank you many times over! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeana Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Did you neutralize at all? Reheating can help some too. If you neutralized it can cause globbing, if you didn't you need to take a ph reading. Even if it feels fine on your skin it can still have a high ph level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Neutralizing is called for in many liquid (KOH) formulations because they are intentionally lye heavy. Her formula started off with a decent SF% and therefore does not require neutralization. Soap will have a pH in the 9-10 range naturally after cure/sequestering. This is normal and not undesirable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderblueboutique Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 I took a ph reading and it read around 8-9. I made it about a week ago. So its definitely not a ph problem. Probably just the unsaponifiables.Will head advice and neutralize if I sf lower. But question: what is a good sf range to start with? I was thinking 2-3, but correct me if I am wrong Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara AL Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 The globs are extra oils that did not go thru saponification stick with about 1-2 SF and it will get milder as it sequesters longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahutchins9 Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 I SF my Castile LS at a 3% and still end up with a crystal clear soap as long as a sub Half the water with glycerin when I mix up my KOH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perez Turner Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 The methods are nice and affordable. I learn much from videos, who is there to place some videos to make it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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