amori Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 I poured my first soy test candles today. I am using EcoSoya Advanced in an 8oz Libby glass jar. The fragrance is CS's Apple Harvest. It looks like it might need anotherpour as there is a dip in the middle after cooling. I poked the holes, inserted the wicksthat I'm testing and hit it with a heat gun. Maybe that might take care of the dip. I'm notusing any color.Now to have the patience to wait and let them cure. This I'm not very good at! I'm going to let them sit for 2 weeks before I burn them. I'll post back later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitn Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Congrats on your first pour. I hope it smells great for you after the cure.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonshine Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Congrats... the advanced makes a beautiful candle- the scent is a good one and the wait will be worth it when you light it up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amori Posted December 8, 2012 Author Share Posted December 8, 2012 i managed to wait 2 weeks! here are pic's after a 4 hour burn.the flame did a little bit of dancing after i lit the candle and the flameseemed a little high. after the 1st hour it had burned all the way to the edge.no soot and the burn pool was about 1/8th" deep. the 2nd hour the burn pool was about1/4th" deep. guess-ti-mating...no ruler handy. there was never any soot, and no mushrooming on the wick.i used a 10% fo load, in an 8oz libby jar, with a lx16 wick.the ht was just ok. maybe a longer cure, or smaller wick?any advice is greatly appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jillsthings Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 In my own personal opinion, and I'm not an advanced chandler, I'd say it is overwicked. I love Apple Harvest! It's a great seller for me in tarts, as I have yet to test it in candles. :-) Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjdaines Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Maybe try a wick size down, by the mid point and end of the jar it might be too hot. As far as HT, with a melt pool as large as the 4 hour pic you should have a pretty good smell going. Waiting larger, in my experience, won't make a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amori Posted December 9, 2012 Author Share Posted December 9, 2012 thanks so much for the input. i'll go down a size on the wick and report back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amori Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share Posted December 31, 2012 after 3 more weeks (and i know that's not very long) for testing wicks in the above candles, and others thati poured of different fo's, and not getting any hot throw what so ever, and reading more and more on this forum.....i'm going to give up on ecosoya cb. i ordered 464 from cs. i've read so much the past week, that i don't remember who said it, but i'm going to take the advise that they gave someone else on this board.....forget about fo's for now and just test wax and wicks.2 nights ago i melted my 464 wax and heated to 185, and took it off the heat to solidify back up to temper it. i'vejust re-melted and poured it. i also ordered a sampling of performa wicks, read a lot of favorable posts about them.when i light them up for the test, i'll start a new post.i do have one question....do i still need to cure the unscented wax for about 2 weeks, or is that just if it's scented? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChandlerWicks Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 No, you don't need to cure if unscented. Maybe 24 hours so that the wax solidifies(SP) completely. I can't think of a reason you'd need to wait any longer then that, but maybe one of the more experienced will chime in to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharon in KY Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 I wouldn't bother testing without FO. Every thing changes when you add it. Just try with this wax what you tried with the other and see if it has a better throw. I thought the first picture you posted looked pretty good, Maybe a little deep for a melt pool. For a 4" across jar it should take 4 hrs to make it to the edge then start going down. Some waxes don't burn that way but soy usually does. But no soot or mushroom is a good thing. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chefmom Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 I'm one of the people who like to test waxes first with no color and no fragrance. I think it gives you a start point when you see that "X" wax doesn't work with "X" wick with nothing added to it. You can then focus on the wicks that work with "X" wax and narrow the type down faster without wasting the most expensive part of candle testing after shipping, fragrance. Also, then you can melt down the leftover wax from the jars and then start again with color and fragrance, so less is wasted.That way, when you do add color and fragrance, you know that wick worked without either, so it MUST be the addition of the fragrance/color that made the wick not work.So far this system has worked with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amori Posted January 3, 2013 Author Share Posted January 3, 2013 I'm one of the people who like to test waxes first with no color and no fragrance. I think it gives you a start point when you see that "X" wax doesn't work with "X" wick with nothing added to it. You can then focus on the wicks that work with "X" wax and narrow the type down faster without wasting the most expensive part of candle testing after shipping, fragrance. Also, then you can melt down the leftover wax from the jars and then start again with color and fragrance, so less is wasted.That way, when you do add color and fragrance, you know that wick worked without either, so it MUST be the addition of the fragrance/color that made the wick not work.So far this system has worked with me.i think this makes the best sense for me. i'm not going to color, so i would only have the fo's to work out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chefmom Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 i think this makes the best sense for me. i'm not going to color, so i would only have the fo's to work out.Another reason that I like to test without fragrance is that you can set out 12 test jars/pillars etc on a big table and test all at the same time. You really appreciate the difference in the wicks when you see them all burning side by side. If you have fragrance in the wax, then you can only burn one at a time to get the best sense of the fragrance throw, so if you have four wicks to test with one fragrance, you can really only burn one at a time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amori Posted January 4, 2013 Author Share Posted January 4, 2013 Another reason that I like to test without fragrance is that you can set out 12 test jars/pillars etc on a big table and test all at the same time. You really appreciate the difference in the wicks when you see them all burning side by side. great idea!! when the performa wicks arrive i'll put compare them with the eco's and cd's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soylux Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 (edited) Just wondering does tempering the 464 help with ht or does it help more with the cosmetics ie smooth tops and frosting? Edited January 17, 2013 by Soylux Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjdaines Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Just wondering does tempering the 464 help with ht or does it help more with the cosmetics ie smooth tops and frosting?Cosmetics from what I understand but it has never helped me any. I pour at 165 and always get smooth tops, it's the frosting that I can't get rid of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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