cybersix Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 (edited) Hello, I'm about to test some container. I don't have a lot of experience with containers, I only made some very large and I found out cd 18 was the choice. The wax I'm going to use is a palm wax for containers that looks like soy, it's in flakes and it behaves likes soy (don't know what wax is it, it's from pitisumi haiash and it's the only I have here in italy). The containers I found are glass tumbler, I chose these because they are inexpensive. The smallest has a 2.55 inch diameter, the largest is 2.95 inch.I have a lot of wick samples of different types, I have RRD, CD, HTP, WU paper core, ECO, LX..I was reading the charst on wickit and wicksunlimited. They bot say all the wicks work well in natural waxes, I got a bit confused on wichs size to pick.Any suggestions on sizes to star with? The tumbler are straight, same diameter from top to bottom.From what I was reading here I got the idea ECO wicks have a lot of problem.Many thanks! Edited October 27, 2012 by cybersix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmc Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 I use soy but have not tried container palm. I looked at some wick rec's on a few sites so my suggestions are based on that but hopefully it will give you a starting point. For a 2.5"-3" container try ECO 12, LX 22-24, CD 12-14...hth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChandlerWicks Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 RRDs work well for me in palm. Try a RRD37 to start. CD10 to start. CD12 should work also but the larger wicks make my jars really, really hot. It depends whether you want a full MP further down or a shell left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybersix Posted October 27, 2012 Author Share Posted October 27, 2012 thanks a lot, my idea is to have a full mp but not a too hot glass.. Is there any difference between those wicks in terms of heat? Stupid question maybe, but I erad abourt ROC and YELD and now I'm more confused LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybersix Posted October 27, 2012 Author Share Posted October 27, 2012 I checked what kind of wicks I have for testing, I have only two RRDs so I guess I'll skip them, found a lot of CDs, ECO and HTPs.I'll start with CDs. Guess I'll start with CD 10, I use less than 1 oz pp of scent in wax. Thanks for suggestions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChandlerWicks Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 I would make 2 jars of each size & test a Cd10 & a Cd12 at the same. Do the same for the Ecos & Htps. It's so much easier & faster to find the best wick.Eco6 & Eco8 to start.Htp93 & Htp104 or 105With each style of wick I've tested in Palm they all flicker constantly. Good luck with the full MP & cooler glass, I haven't been able to do that yet even with leaving a shell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybersix Posted October 27, 2012 Author Share Posted October 27, 2012 (edited) ChandlerWicks a CD12 seems big to me, I made some tins time ago and I settled with a CD 10, anyway I'll do as you suggest. I also found CSN wick from candle science I forgot them in a box, maybe I'll give those a try too. Flickering flames, mushrooms.. my nightmares. I'll try to do my best! Edited October 27, 2012 by cybersix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChandlerWicks Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 CSN are the wicks for Palm, great! I have a CSN9 in a 3inch wide by 6.5inch tall, its keeping the shell I want. It goes down slowly, but looks beautiful with the crazy flickering wick. The CSN 11s & 12s were heating up the jars horribly.No mushrooms so far with CSNs!I've been testing for 18 months & would have been done months ago if I'd tried the 2 or 3 jar method to compare wicks against each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybersix Posted October 27, 2012 Author Share Posted October 27, 2012 Yes I don't have many CSN but since I have 200 pounds of this wax I want to try them, I can buy some more (if shipping to italy won't kill me). They are made for palm! Just to have an idea, how much FO do you use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChandlerWicks Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Usually 8%, if a Candle Cocoon FO between 4.5% to 6%We already know they are the ones for palm, so only have to test for sizes not try every type wick being sold. What a great thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybersix Posted October 27, 2012 Author Share Posted October 27, 2012 I usually use a 5% of most of my oils, I'm usually really happy with this percentage.CSN are good for palm but I dont' have many, so I will test some CD as well. I'm trying to be ready for a christmas craft market. I could ask CS a shipping quote and see how long it would take to have the wicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChandlerWicks Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 You should do well with both. That's great you can use 5%, I have such trouble smelling my candles.I usually use a 5% of most of my oils, I'm usually really happy with this percentage.CSN are good for palm but I dont' have many, so I will test some CD as well. I'm trying to be ready for a christmas craft market. I could ask CS a shipping quote and see how long it would take to have the wicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybersix Posted October 28, 2012 Author Share Posted October 28, 2012 I use a lot of peak's oils and they always throw good for me. I made some testers today, with CDs and CSN. Tomorrow I'll start the testing.In the meanwhile just for fun I made a candle with wood wick, and it's burning and throwing really good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChandlerWicks Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 I've never tried the woodwicks, can you post a pic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybersix Posted October 28, 2012 Author Share Posted October 28, 2012 Here it is. I also made a "swirl".The wood wick I have come from UK. This is the medium size and maybe it's a bit large for this tumbler, anyway it's burning quietly, a nice crackling sound and a good throw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChandlerWicks Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Looks good! Neat jar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybersix Posted October 28, 2012 Author Share Posted October 28, 2012 Thanks, I'm liking it. after 4 hours it has a full MP about half inch deep, the glass is warm but not too hot. Tomorrow I'll test the other wicks, all candles are made with same wax, color and scent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChandlerWicks Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 I'll have to research the WWs & give them a try. I feel soooo organized when I test the candles that way. Before I was felt frustrated, because everything was all helter skelter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybersix Posted October 28, 2012 Author Share Posted October 28, 2012 Yes I know how it is, you have to get organized to test properly without getting mad, but once you find the way that works for you you'r halfway done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChandlerWicks Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 (edited) Oh no does that mean I have 18 more months to go.All this organization just started. Edited October 28, 2012 by ChandlerWicks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybersix Posted October 28, 2012 Author Share Posted October 28, 2012 Organize! Organize! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChandlerWicks Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Yep I am working on it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybersix Posted October 29, 2012 Author Share Posted October 29, 2012 (edited) Test going on, the CD10 and CD12 are behaving the same way, curling and maybe are developing mushrooms (can't say exactly now). The tumblers are 3 inch wide, after two hours the melt pool is not full, larger with CD12, the hot throw is good in both... The small tumbler 2.5 inch wide is going with a CSN9 but it seems a little underwicked. I will let them burn and see.The wood wick today is not so good small flame and no throw. Edited October 29, 2012 by cybersix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChandlerWicks Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Hopefull the MP will be complete by the 3rd or 4th burn. That's why I like using the CSNs, no mushrooms. HT is great, what FO?That's a big change for the WW, maybe post a new thread for that one. I think a few on here use those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybersix Posted October 29, 2012 Author Share Posted October 29, 2012 No FMP in the first burn of 3 hours and a half.All the wicks are mushrooming, including the CSN, wich splitted in two halves. The wood wick was not trimmed leveled, so it was burning only on one side, now I trimmed and leveled and it's going right.Will stop the first session burn for now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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