Thanks for all the truthful replies. OK I admit I have an addiction to this and buying new f/o's. Maybe I am doing something wrong and I am glad I asked. I have 4 choices of wicks that I use and I burn all 4 at the same time. I use ECO,CD,CDN AND HTP. Usually I need to go through a couple of sizes before I feel its right. When I get what I thought was the correct candle which is good HT, good even wax pool and clean burn all the way to the end without having any glass problems I thought I was through for that F/O,Wick and Dye. So I move on to the next one. Am I wrong there?? I figured we could get some help from others. We don't sell candles and really don't think we would even be remotely close at this time. What I meant about fall and Christmas was not for retail purposes and I also stated that in my last post. I was asking that with so many f/o's do you all still test all of them yourselves or do you GIVE them to family and friends to help. Mike