TheWickedWick

According to the Candlescience website..the 2.25" size will make an approx. 1 oz. tart. I ordered several of them myself today. The 2.5" will of course be slightly bigger. HTH Karen

Thanks everyone for all your suggestions. I ordered some 4630 from CS to test with my 464..should be here tomorrow. Here's hoping this solves my frustration. Will be doing an 85/15 blend to see if I get improved CT & HT..mostly HT.

Thanks Debra...that was the answer I was looking for . I'm off to look at CS. Have a great evening!

Gee...that bites..I'm new and just discovered them. Received a sample pack of CDN's and FO's from them a week or two ago. Guess I won't be re-ordering....

I've been testing the CDN's as well..having mushrooming problems even though I'm wicking both ways..up and down.

Waxflower..according to Ky's message board Vickey said the para-soy tart/votive blend is a little more than 30% paraffin. I just received my 10# bag of this today and poured a few tarts with it. Not sure how they will be yet. After cooling they all had a smooth dimple-like surface on them. Did some foil liners and clamshells. I posted on the KY message board and Vickey said they sometimes do this and maybe adding a bit more soy would alleviate this. I might try this next time. They didn't look really bad but just not smooth. I'm used to dealing with an only soy product and getting nice creamy tops. Never worked with a para-soy before. HTH Karen

Debra...when you say you use 15% paraffin...what kind? I'm assuming it would be a paraffin wax used for containers...always confused about that. Thanks so much for your help on this topic..I really like the 464 and if I can get the HT & CT issue taken care of I'll be a happy camper! Karen

Pristina...welcome to my club, although not a very happy club I'm having the same problems as you. Using quality FO's, curing 5 days and still nothing. Have cured some FO's 2 weeks and still barely a whiff. I've tested CD wicks and will be testing on Monday Eco and CDN wicks. I wish I could offer you some advise. I also use CS oils and JBN. I heat to 185, add FO (usually 1.3 - 1.4 oz/lb) and pour at 145. Beautiful tops. Would love to stay with this wax but like you..why would someone want to buy these candles..I don't even enjoy them! I'm almost finished with a 10 lb. bag and have yet to get a decent candle. I'm seriously thinking of trying a new wax but don't know which way to go. I looking forward to hearing from those who are successfully using this wax too. Karen

I purchased my first soy kit from Lonestar..I think it comes with 10 lbs of C3 wax, jars, pour pot, wick bars, etc. - plenty to start you on your way. And, I agree with Deb..my repertoire of swear words has dramatically increased. My DH has learned to scatter when I'm doing candles :tiptoe: . But..I love it..mainly because it is challenging and rewarding. Have fun - that's the key! Karen

Congratulations! You might as well keep your credit card sitting by the computer .. . there's always something I find I just have to have. Karen

Thanks Rebeccajo..me too...my grey roots can't take much more of this. I'm digging my heels in on this one

Deb..thank you for your kind offer. I actually had just ordered a sample pack of the Eco 12's from Candlescience...I had a hunch it would take the 12's...besides, it gave me an excuse to order a couple new FO's. Should have them on Wednesday. Here's hoping they work. When I get them I'll give it a shot and let you know how they work out. I'm going to hold off on the CO until after this last ditch test. Thanks for all your help. Hope next time I'll be screaming yipee! Karen

Deb...my tin is 3 1/8" dia and 2" tall. What do you think about CO? I've been reading and some think it helps. Guess I could try..couldn't hurt I suppose. I currently heat my 464 to 185, add FO, pour at 135. The C-3 I heated to 185, added FO and poured at 165. My tops on both waxes looked great...nice and smooth.

Deb, I do have a couple of Eco's..8's, 10's & 14's. Would one of those work in my 8 oz tins? I only wish I could blame it on candlenose..no one else can barely smell it either. Had a neighbor over and she didn't even know I had a candle going

Well...still a no go as far as HT goes Poured my GB 464 with the CS Sage-Pomegrante FO 1.3 oz/pound (decided to drop the amount a tad) and still nothing! I realize I've only let them cure 2 1/2 days but I should have something. I hardly have a wiff and that's only if I'm standing over the tin. Used CD 14's in my 8 oz tin..no dyes and no other additives. Just for kicks I also tried some C-3 I had on hand and if I'm looking for some sort of bright spot..I got nothing there too. Is it just possible this FO is not going to work for me? I know others have posted it worked great for them...however...I can't seem to get the same results. Thought about doing some tins with another CS FO - Macintosh Apple and see if that works. So far the CD14 seems to be okay but still too soon to tell for sure. Only did one test burn so far. Wish I had a known FO that has really thrown for me but being new..I haven't narrowed that down yet..that delicate balance between wick, wax and FO. I have some CO..do you think adding 1 tsp/lb would help? Don't have USA. I also have coming to me this week a sample pack of CDN wicks. If I could just get a decent HT I would be less discouraged. Any suggestions? I really wanted to stay with all soy and not add parafin. TIA Karen

Thanks Rebeccajo...frustrating isn't..not knowing which way to go. Will pour those two tomorrow and hopefully in a couple of days I'll have something happy to report. Such a fine line this candle thing. HT has been the hardest thing for me to achieve. Have a great weekend.

Wow...walked back into the room where the tart warmer was...great HT now...so that's what Sage-Pomegrante is suppose to smell like . How do I get this out of my candle?

Stella...I put some of the left over wax in a warmer and the HT was much better. (A great tip by the way..thanks you guys). So I guess it must be the wick size. So...do I wick up to a CD 14 or down to a CD 10? My tin is 3" diameter and 2" deep. I don't use dye or any other additives-just the 464. The CD 12 left very little on the sides and the tin was touchable warm. Gee, now I'm confused again.

Stella, hot throw not too great-on the mild side. Cold throw was very good. Used 1.4 oz/pound of Candlescience Sage Pomegrante, let cure for 5 days. Other glass containers that cured for 7 days still seem to be on the mild side not a knock your sock off aroma-cold throw very good. I just thought this was one fragrance that wasn't going to be overly strong or maybe not a good one for my GB 464. What do you think? Instead of 1.4 oz. should I cut back on it? I know from baking that sometimes less is the way to go. Thanks for your input. Karen

I used a CD 12 to wick an 8 oz. tin. Wax was GB 464. Did my test burns and I'm thinking I might have had a successful candle but was wondering...is it normal with the longer wick necks to have about a 1/3 inch of wax left on the bottom of your container? Container sides only had a light film left. Tin was warm to the touch but not hot (could easily pick it up without burning my fingers). I know the longer wick necks are a safety feature. I'm afraid if I wick up to a CD 14 the tin would become too hot. Just wanting to know if I can celebrate my first success or is it back to the drawing boards. Thanks Karen

My thanks to everyone....I think I'll use the hot glue idea for testing purposes and should I every make a decent enough candle to give/sell, then I'll use the gasket sealer on my final test. Right now I'm just trying to narrow down wicks and FO's for my wax and would like to reuse my jars for further testing. You're right...they're too expensive to just toss! I did notice the bottoms of my mason jars and hex jars are a bit domed in the middle and not perfectly flat which is probably causing all my stress. I guess I'll just save the 999 Wick Stickums I have left for flat bottomed jars. Wonder if you could use them to hold bra straps in place under tank tops..:rolleyes2 Everyone have a great day...I'm off to plug in the glue gun!

Dana, they do have a curved bottom...maybe that's the problem..not enough flat surface. Thanks. I bet that's it. The hex jars have the same curved bottom. I'll try the high temp glue or silicone tomorrow. Thanks for all the help. Not been a good candle day. One batch totally came out all wrong and then stickums did stickum. Oh well, at least the wine taste's good! I'll start over tomorrow.

Forgot to add...I tried warming the jars a tad before using them..didn't work...I also tried humming, singing and standing on one foot:angry2: . Could this possibly be a bad roll? Would silicone gel chalk (I've seen mentioned in past threads) be easier to work with/remove from test jars than the gasket sealer? Thanks Karen

Received a whole big roll of Wick Stickums from CS (1,000 thank you very much) and I can't get them to stick in my jars! I'm trying to wick 8 oz. Square Mason Jars and 6 oz. Hex Jars. I'm pushing and pressing as hard as I can using the straw and pen thingy and using my fingers. Nothing works, they just keep popping back loose. Jars are squeaky clean and dry. I have high temp gasket sealer but these were just test jars and getting the sealer loose to reuse the jars is next to impossible. (small opening). Don't have any glue dots just a 1,000 useless stickums! Any suggestions? I'm about to scream...or worse!! I've emailed CS but no response as of yet. Karen

Does anyone ever check the accuracy of their thermometer? Since temperature is such a crucial element in trying to achieve the perfect or near perfect candle, I was just wondering if anyone ever does this especially when trying to rule out possible causes. I guess it's the former baker in me, but whenever we purchased a new one we would check to see how accurate it was and then adjust up or down if needed. In testing, we found some to be as much as 10-15* off. May not sound like much but believe me it would make a big difference in how our bread turned out. (We tested them by the boiling point of water - 212* at sea level-not overly scientific but it worked). Just putting this thought out there. Interested in knowing your thoughts. Have a great day...a hot one here for us today. I'm trying to be patient waiting for the UPS guy..new CD wicks for testing. Karen