IMO they are not huge direct profit makers. They were however a few other things for us when we offered them: 1) Impulse buy. We had them at the counter so people would see them when paying. We sold ours for $3.00. 2) Brought new customers in our store looking specifically for these because the ones you buy in the stores around here are crap. :tiptoe: 3) Great freebie or give-away. Better than a tart because not all customers have tart burners, but most have cars :smiley2: So, in a roundabout way they made us money and some new customers. HTH