Noodle~ I really like the WSP natural bases but have that one thing against them...being bendable. The first time I made some soap with the natural GM, I didn't add anything but FO and a little color. The next time I made soap I added FO, no color, a tiny bit of shea butter and some white table sugar... the sugar helped to harden the bar up! Until I got to the end of the bar where it became very pliable again. I'm going to try adding a little more sugar and some of the Dr. Bronners organic liquid soap next time to help with more lather, as some have suggested on the board. Here is where I have to agree with Candybee, the base does not accept much in the way of additives and it feels like I'm adding one thing to combat this or that, and then another to combat what I just added! I'm not going to give up yet though! It's a challenge!