I did a show this spring where I was set up across from their booth. They had more selection of different types of candles and therefore a larger booth. I sell mostly tins, jjs and apothocary. I had also taken some tarts. Anyway the show sucked as far as foot traffic went, so we had a lot of time to compare notes and chat. They said that they don't buy other fo's or wax, just candle wealth. I noticed on the website, that they are very limited on scents. They also stated that their product shipped from CA. Shipping from CA to OH is outrageous on wax alone. Also they stated that the wax and fo's only worked together, that they wouldn't use any other suppliers fo's in their wax because they were formulated to work together. (uh huh, right) Anyhoo, it was exactly the type of situation not to get into. They are buying into the hype of CW and unable to be creative one of the most creative parts of the business.... FO's!! IMO They were very creative ppl but hobbled by the restrictions of CW. A little research and they could do lots better!!