I used the juice and it took 17 oz. I didn't think i would get it stired in. I took the mixer to it and whip the sn-t ou of it. They say not to do that becaue it put to much air in the soap and it will fall, but mine is fine. Thanks every one means alot. I have not done much but this is fun. I let this set for about 3days to see if it would soften up but noooooo. anyhoo on the soapcream forum they believe it was my steric. Thanks for looking.