Dorothy Mantooth

That is a great link! I've been tracking weight after each burn so I think I can figure out if they are consuming at a rate they suggest. The flame height chart is interesting as well.

I ordered some 4630, htp, and cd to test. I still have zinc sampler. I'm doing 4oz and 8oz tins. I've got two FO in quantities to test across those three wicks in those two size containers- peony or tobacco cherry. Do you suggest 8%? Ultimately I'd love a strong smeller. I've tested these FO in my soy and I like the ht at 10%. I read that paraffin throws better than soy so I assume I can do 6 or 8%. I've also not been able to get a 8oz candle to burn for a zillion hours like most people say about soy. I think the best I did was 22hours. I've been weighing between burns and keeping track to compare to 4630. Always appreciate the guidance.

What wick should I try with 4630 in 4oz and 8oz tin? I'll order some tomorrow.

I tried 464, c3, 464+paraffin, and some 100% soy junk from hobby lobby. All had tops that I wasn't pleased with after burning and cooling. Pulling away- I have mainly been trying tins. I've been too lazy to try any with preheated jars. NW Elite 200 had about the same type of wet spots as other waxed. I'm not getting complete pull away, but if I heat the sides with a blow dryer it looks nice. After burning it seems to go back. Here are two jars I just burned for 3 hours. Can you see the parts that are adhering? Also a top from 3 hour in a tin. Looks perfectly smooth. I'd try a parasoy or pure paraffin if you have a suggestion for type and wick for 8oz tin. I'm not sold that it has to be soy. I just want it to consistently have a nice top.

https://www.cargill.com/doc/1432078142582/naturewax-elite-200-data-sheet.pdf

No problem. I read somewhere they might also work in soy, but thry just really struggle in this wax. I'll have to get some samples of another wick to try. Also, it is annoying that I can't find a pal who uses this wax I use. I even called filmore container and they confirmed it wasn't an old wax or something that would be discontinued anytime soon. It says it's soy, but tops don't look like soy at all after burning. They are very smooth. It's burning slower than 464 and I'm not quite convinced ecos are the best fit.

Well know I remember my zinc experience. The flame always seemed poor to me. I'm going to post photos from a current burn. First- just look at the two middle candles. Is that what a zinc fame is supposed to look like? Top is z36-24 and lower is z44-32. All candles shown are using NW Elite 200 soy. candles other than the middle two are separated by rows of scent in columns of eco wick size. Left to right eco 10, eco 8, eco 6. Where the zinc are is where an eco 8 was that died during the previous burn. Row closest to the camera is a strong cinnamon fo, middle is a lemonade, fastest away is a lighter peony. Ive been trying to determine which eco to use in 8oz tin. For 4 oz tin I've settled on eco 2. I think it does well for me in most scents. All candles in these photos have been burning 2 hours tonight. All except the zinc are on their 4th burn. Burn 1 @ 3 hours and each of the others at 2 hours. 9 hours total. I don't have my notes on how long the zinc burned previously. My wax wax says it doesn't neee cure time, but I waited 5-6 days before burning this batch. all eco tins are 10% fo. Zincs are at 6% and we're lighter fo. All were trimmed before each burn period. Typically I heat to 186, take off heat, add fo within a few minutes, stir two minutes and pour. This wax cools really fast in the pour pot, so I'd say I'm poring around 165ish. I think I covered everything. Let me know what you think about these zincs and the candles in general. I've had two batches back to back where the eco 8 burned out at about 7 hours but eco 6 chugged on. In one test eco 4 burned all the way to the end. I don't get a deep pool with this wax like I did when I was testing 464. On 4oz with eco 2 I get a pool after 2 hour burn. I started with eco 14 and I just think it seemed unsafe. It did make a good pool though. Appreciate any comments.

@Lolli I don't use the products you do, but from what I read on this forum essential oils are not recommended. You need to buy fragrance oils- plus they are a lot less expensive. Also follow the cure time for your wax before trying to burn it. Also, some that have a great cold throw don't hit throw that great. I've got two specifically that I love cold, but is anticlimatic when lit. Keep at it!

I poured cs Carmel corn last week and it smells great in the container. Waiting for it to cure a bit. It is quite buttery. I mixed a little plain Carmel in it too. I poured white birch to test zinc wick tonight. My house smells like Christmas! Last Christmas tree scent I tried smelled too much licke Vicks salve. The toasted pumpkin had some weird smell to me oob. I mixed it with pumpkin soufflé to tone it down some. It's really addicting buying the sample bottles!

I still have some zinc, so I'll try that again. My notes don't describe well why I didn't like them. Appreciate your advice.

Thanks @wthomas57 any of the ones you use not break off after burning/cooling if you try to trim them? I'm using soy NW Elite 200. When you test burn do you trim in between or leave not trimmed to simulate consumers burn?

Thanks. I just can't imagine a consumer trimming it. Tonight I decided to try not timing some that has burned 2 hours the night before. The flames were super huge- about 2". I blew them out and trimmed. Now they are proper sized. I didn't care for zinc. I kept breaking off the wire and got really big mushrooms. What do you suggest for one that doesn't need trimmed or is more sturdy? I'm just wicking 8oz tins. I started with the Eco 14 candle science suggested and it was stupid overkill. I'm testing Eco 6,8,10. I using NW elite 200. I've got several different fo burning at 10%. I'm wicking a 4oz tin with Eco 2 and it works great every time.

I used to struggle with Alfredo, trying to follow recipes and making rouxs. I make it about every other week now. I melt one stick of butter in a sauce pan, then add about half a cup of half and half. Once that has warmed up I start adding parmasean cheese (the kind from a tub in the refridgerated section, not the powdered stuff you put on pizza). Once the entire tub has melted add more milk if needed. Cook bow tie pasta while this is happening. Drain the pasta well and add the sauce. It's really quick. If you want it more special cook some finely chopped red onion in bacon and then add that to the sauce along with some Gouda. Add in chicken at the end.

Tonight I did a test burn on five different scents, cooked a pork roast in the crockpot, and baked cookies to mail to my daughter. My head and nose hurt with scent overload! I just walked outside and the air smelled so good. ?

Thanks @Nickie but that link is for a different product. NW Elite 200 I only find from Filmore container. I've continued with testing and I like it. I know I'm new to candling, but it works well for me. I talked to Filmore and they said it was 100% soy. The msds says it's a Mixed Vegetable Glyceride. I haven't gotten it to work great in glass, but I'm doing tons for now. Tops are always smooth after every burn. I'll post some testing photos later, but would like to chat with anyone else who uses or tested it.

Do any of you who make candles from your home do anything regarding homeowners insurance? Im not talking about product liability and general liability insurance. appreciate any advice. I'll keep searching the threads in the mean time.

If this is your work after not doing it long you are very talented. Have you ever burned one? Is it supposed to tunnle down and glow or does it all melt and drip?

Very nice! What scent did you end up with? Totally my opinion here, but I think it would be cool to see the base a light blue with darker blue and white swirls instead of multicolor. That would really make the mermaids tail pop.

I like pink grapefruit and the volcano type smells pretty dead on to me. Volcano is my wife's favorite.

I've been doing all my testing with ECO wicks. I personally like them, but they do seem to be fragile after burning. Anyone else have a problem with them breaking off too short? I've been trying to be good and trim slightly between burns and sometimes the wick just breaks off totally. If I don't trim the flame tends to be too high. I didn't see this question in searching the forum. I think this would frustrate a consumer.

I've ordered that product before and it just came 12 jars sitting next to each other in a flat box with shrink wrapped top. It was packed in a box with other samples so I was thankful for that. Seems weird that they would ship an entire pallet loose like that. Hopefully Filmore will help fix it.

Wanted to finally say hello from the land of newby lurkerville. First off- kudos to all of you who successfully make candles as a business or side business. Candles are hard to make well, expensive, addictive, and require a lot of patience. BUT they are so much fun! I have gained a lot of knowledge reading through past posts. I appreciate those who have come before me. I am 41, live in Arkansas with my wife and 3 cats, and have a grown daughter out of the house. I'm a graphic designer by day. I've always dreamed of owning a bakery. Aside from not being able to eat it, candles fit with so many things I enjoy - recipes, crafting, marketing, business, manufacturing. I only came to candling early this year. I know I'll probable catch some flack, but I want to start selling soon - like October maybe. I have applied for a city license, state tax ID and will get general liability insurance before any candle leaves my watch. I haven't given or sold to anyone yet. I plan to make three scents initially and I make them from my home. I would sell them through a website. I read a post today where someone asked if making candles at home violates a homeowners insurance policy. It never dawned on me that making candles might affect my homeowners insurance. Do any of you who sell make the candles from your home? If so, did you do anything specific about homeowners insurance? My wife says I'm over thinking it. Aside from when I do test burns I don't see where it would be a big deal either, but I'm hesitant. I also don't want to keep throwing money at candles to now find that I can't make them do to homeowners insurance. I don't think any of the supplies (wax/FO)I keep are any more dangerous than the 5+ gallons of gas I keep in our garage. The making of candles was fun, but the trying to setup a business has been frustrating at every turn. At the moment my city says I need a state tax ID before I can get my city license, and the state says I can't get tax ID until I get city license I appreciate any thoughts or advice or prayers or laughs.

Thanks for confirming. From what I'm reading on the thread your customers don't seem to care about it as long as it smells good and burns well.