Hi Trappeur I was not even close to offended ? I am a newbie and took your advise , well I had already been on the FO one . I will try to sale them soo but at a very low price and at our dive shop lol ! I have been handing out test candles to all my friends like candy and they love them but baby steps . I am happy with the waxes I am testing right now and will keep using them for now and maybe just keep testing to see what affects the throw . Going to go search for that one post you mentioned about scents in the 464 . No worries this is exciting to me to have found a blog where people share my love for this hobby ( still just a fun hobby to me ) I love it ! Thank You so much for your opinion ?