SliverOfWax Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 (edited) Christians DO provide charity, by the bucket loads. Goodness, there are tons of faith-based charities, for everything from feeding children to adoption to helping with health care. My guess is you don't know about them because you haven't looked or asked your religious leaders.Your dilemna is a business decision.Oh, and btw, moveon is George Soros. In case you didn't know. Edited February 3, 2012 by SliverOfWax spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sisters3 Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Breaking News From CNN"Susan G. Komen for the Cure to restore Planned Parenthood breast cancer screening funds, Sen. Frank Lautenberg says"Just wanted to share this. Good Luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernadette Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Just saw breaking news that the decision has been reversed. Hope they are right. I think your dilemma went away.:tiptoe: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SliverOfWax Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Will they refund the donations they got from those who applauded their original decision?If they don't, they're nothing but scammers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annie123 Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 In either case the SGK will not recover from this one and people are going to look at it twice before they contribute.It is a moral dilemma and only you can decide what the right thing to do (for you) is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacktieaffair Posted February 3, 2012 Author Share Posted February 3, 2012 Ok, first.. I just saw the news break about them reversing their decision. Second, before I get to number 3, I need to say this, and make sure all of you know it... I THANK YOU ALL for all the support, opinions and the helping me figure out what to do. It means more to me than yall can ever know and you guys helped me through a really emotional time last night.Now.. and I hate to say the Third one because I truly dont want anyone mad at me but ... I've had people say "it's a business decision " and I've had others say "it's a moral decision". For me ? It's BOTH ! . I WANT to be as ethical as I can and still have a successful business. It means the world to me to support myself and my family, and sell fantastic products that people love and keep coming back for more. Rarely do I let business cross into my personal feelings, but this time, I couldn't help it due to what all I've been through with all three of those organizations. I hope I dont make anyone mad, but please understand , this wasn't just a business decision to me. There's no way , for ME, that it could be just about business. Every one is different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorseScentS Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 so Christians either need to start providing those same services, or STFU. (Pardon my French). Or take all the children that are neglected, abused, etc. into their homes & give them every single thing they need & deserve.Exactly! Are they helping the kids in low income communities? or are they buying Coach handbags to carry to church? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorseScentS Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Christians DO provide charity, by the bucket loads. Goodness, there are tons of faith-based charities, for everything from feeding children to adoption to helping with health care. My guess is you don't know about them because you haven't looked or asked your religious leaders.Your dilemna is a business decision.Oh, and btw, moveon is George Soros. In case you didn't know.I know about Christian charities, and about what goes on behind the scenes in churches, because I've been a devout Christian for decades and in ministry for 6 years. Christian charities exist, but the percentage of Christian money that trickles into the hands of the needy is minute compared to what Christians spend on other things. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacktieaffair Posted February 4, 2012 Author Share Posted February 4, 2012 Just thought I'd let yall know, I have a few things done for the Relay for Life committee. Did some funky and some classy TPs in different shades of purple, some with rhinestones, some with just ribbons, some metallic ribbons, etc... Now to run get some VS for soap and get that done sometime this weekend if Im lucky. I really need that stuff cause I just dont thing weird colored soap is going to go over too well ! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lauramw71 Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 I'm glad to hear that your dilemma became easier. I just wanted to let you know that I don't associate the two organizations as being combined. The PP we had in our town provided free screenings, pregnancy testing, counseling, and help for young mothers. We had an abortion clinic also in town (that recently closed after 40 years because of all the controversy) so I think that might be the reason the PP didn't do much in that way. But, I applaud you for putting morals into your decision making. There isn't much of that in this world anymore. There's more emphasis on the almighty dollar than there is morality. Although I would have told you to go for it, I again applaud you for thinking with your heart before your (hopefully MUCH larger) bank account for this one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChandlerWicks Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Exactly! Are they helping the kids in low income communities? or are they buying Coach handbags to carry to church?One has only to step into a school & see who isn't being helped. Very easy to see. Sold handbags, so yes to that also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SliverOfWax Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Forbes' list of top ten charities and what the top dogs make. Oopsey, daisey, looks like those non-religious ones are the ones with the fancy Coach purses:http://www.forbes.com/2008/11/19/americas-largest-charities-pf-charities08-cx_wb_1119charity_land.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChandlerWicks Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 It's not what they personally make or claim as their income. It's the luxuries they surround themselves with that are written off as expenses. Of course there are charities that are honest, then there are ones that are using religion as a money making opportunity. Each of us believes differently. The thread has gone off topic & is on its way into another battle. Can we agree that we all believe differently & not have a spat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacktieaffair Posted February 4, 2012 Author Share Posted February 4, 2012 I like turtles............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChandlerWicks Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Really? They're kinda too slow for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacktieaffair Posted February 4, 2012 Author Share Posted February 4, 2012 LOL here's the explanation , its a video on YouTube : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lauramw71 Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 I like turtles............LOL We say that ALL the time at work when it's REALLY quiet and people are totally concentrating on work. LOL Outside of work I get the "huh" look if I ever say it. I'm so glad someone else had seen that video! LOL!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChandlerWicks Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Perfect response! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacktieaffair Posted February 4, 2012 Author Share Posted February 4, 2012 Well, somehow the topic went from SGKF / PP / ACS to charity and religion and while I can see some of the relevance, it was getting too far OT , so I figured as the OP , I could try to make everyone smile with the Tutles Thanks to everyone for all their input. Seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lauramw71 Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 LOL Not the first time it's happened, sure won't be the last! haha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChandlerWicks Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 LOL Not the first time it's happened, sure won't be the last! haha!Yep & as far as handbags being off topic, they need their own thread anyway. IMO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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