valeriesc Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Which wax would you use for jelly jar candles?Classic Container Wax Blend-IGI 4786 or Single Pour Container Wax-IGI 4630A.Thank you for any suggestions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorseScentS Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Since a jelly jar is a container, you can use any container wax in a jelly jar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candybee Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Why don't you just buy a sample of each to test out and see which you like best. Samples can come anywhere from 1 - 10 lbs. Its a whole lot better than buying a full case and finding out you don't like the wax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judy, USMC Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 I started before a lot of these waxes came on the market and used scale wax and stearic which was definitely 2-pour. I quit making candles for 2 years to take care of my mom. Back in 2006 I was given some 4786 and added just 1tsp pp of stearic to get the familiar consistency/hardness. I tried the 4630 but it seemed to have a milder hot throw. Now be warned the 4786 does take more attention than the single pour - but with the FOs I use it makes a great throwing candle. It's just a tad more costlier to reheat the wax for the second pour. And (sticking with whats worked for me) I do use zinc wicks.Now your results may be different. The 4630 and wick combo I used may not have been the best. So I guess I'm really saying testing is in order ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjdaines Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 I am using 4630 for containers and love the one-pour feature, seems to have a pretty good HT tho I have not compared it to 4786. As for wicking, I've tried LX. HTP, and CD with the HTP and CD giving the better HT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksranch Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 I use 4630 and zinc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coconut Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 I use both 4630 and J50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judy, USMC Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 (edited) 4786 and added just 1tsp pp of stearic to get the familiar consistency/hardness. Oh - Forgot to add that with the 4786/stearic combo you will probably see wet spots. The wax shrinks as it cools and the stearic adds to the shrinkage and it can pull away from the side of the jars. To lessen the effect I do pre-heat the jars, but often it is not enough. It hasn't hurt my sales; the throw more than makes up for the appearance. Edited January 22, 2012 by Judy, USMC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorseScentS Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 4786 and added just 1tsp pp of stearic to get the familiar consistency/hardness. Oh - Forgot to add that with the 4786/stearic combo you will probably see wet spots. The wax shrinks as it cools and the stearic adds to the shrinkage and it can pull away from the side of the jars. To lessen the effect I do pre-heat the jars, but often it is not enough. It hasn't hurt my sales; the throw more than makes up for the appearance.I had the same thing happen with 6006, even though I preheated my jelly jars, so I was wondering if adding coconut oil would fix that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judy, USMC Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Based on my experience ... 100% of the buyers will pick up and open a candle to smell it. I have never noticed anyone turning the jar around to see if there are wet spots. The wax/stearic combo is working fine for me so I'm taking the attitude that it's not a factor in a buyer's decision; it's not broken so why try to fix it? Put yourself in the buyer's place - do you base a candle purchase on your nose or your eyes? @HorsescentS - any time you start playing with additives you open the door to more testing. How will it affect the wicking or scent throw? What percentage would you use? Will your proven FOs still work when the CO is added? The OP was talking about paraffin wax and 6006 is a parasoy so that question may be better served in the veggie section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorseScentS Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Based on my experience ... 100% of the buyers will pick up and open a candle to smell it. I have never noticed anyone turning the jar around to see if there are wet spots. The wax/stearic combo is working fine for me so I'm taking the attitude that it's not a factor in a buyer's decision; it's not broken so why try to fix it? Put yourself in the buyer's place - do you base a candle purchase on your nose or your eyes? @HorsescentS - any time you start playing with additives you open the door to more testing. How will it affect the wicking or scent throw? What percentage would you use? Will your proven FOs still work when the CO is added? The OP was talking about paraffin wax and 6006 is a parasoy so that question may be better served in the veggie section.I'm not working with 6006 anymore, I'm using paraffin, but I was surprised you were having the same problem with paraffin that I had with parasoy because I haven't had that problem with paraffin. There was some discussion on another thread about whether or not you can add CO to paraffin, but whatever. I mostly go by scent, but I am turned off by wax that looks like a hard lump of Playdoh that's not even touching the sides of the jar. Ideally, I want both a strong scent and a nice smooth look, and there are candles like that in the stores. A wet spot here and there doesn't bother me, but more than that does bother me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valeriesc Posted January 23, 2012 Author Share Posted January 23, 2012 Thank you everyone for all your comments. They helped a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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